That’s an interesting point about Smith. No one seems to want to try him in his original half-back position.

I haven’t seen enough of him play there to make an opinion. In fact on a first-team basis I can only think of a couple of occasions mid-game where’s he gone there to cover injuries under TS.

I don't think there will be many other high tackles where a player gets knocked unconscious this season, high shots yes but not that result. That is why the punishment tariff is so high! Intentional or accidental it didn't look good for Dec from the moment it happened.

[iCarlos Tuimavave (Hull FC) receives a Grade A Penalty Notice (no further action) for Dangerous Contact in the Betfred Super League match on Friday night between Hull FC and Warrington Wolves.[/i



[iDec Patton (Warrington Wolves) was found guilty of a Grade D High Tackle charge in the Betfred Super League fixture against Hull FC on Friday March 2. The player contested the grading level but the tribunal were satisfied that it was the correct grading level. The player has two previous incidents of disciplinary on his record (including striking) and within the guidelines set out, a concussive injury should be an aggravating factor which occurred in this instance. Patton received a five-match suspension and £500 fine.[/i

both lifted from rugby-league.com

Hope it answers your question

Striking? I can't think of when that ever was. Unless it was the broncos game and the scrap that never was.

Exactly in our game against Salford, the player Tasi put exactly the same head shot on Percival and nothing, another head shot on Peyroux a penalty, another head shot on Peyroux a yellow card.
For Patton it’s the fact the Hull Player was knocked out was the point of being a red card.
However with the disciplinary Patton has got the game bans but Salford’s Tasi has got away with 3 dangerous head shots and no ban.

we had that the week before as well, wigan got away with numerous headshots, we got pinged for one off clark that bounced up off a shoulder.

the only one wigan got pulled for was the tomkins one where he broke ratch's nose and impeded play after a break and then had a full on hissy fit at thaler. He's not even got a strong worded letter from the RFL.

If we binned GO'B then there is no reason to keep Patton. The former is half the size of even Patton and still took on the line, took the ball to the line, and showed flare with his kicking game. Some of the stuff GO'B did didn't get enough praise.

He ripped Leeds a new one very early on for us with his kicking both short and long. I remember a bomb he put up against Wigan in the play offs, chased it down himself and made Bowen look a complete melon to score. That dummy he threw to score in the WCC fixture a few years ago. These are highlights that were few granted, but I literally can't recall Patton doing anything of note aside from his try in the GF. Ironically the only time i've seen him take the line on himself. He isn't up to it. Never has been.

Well i think the acid test is - are any Warrington fans disappointed he will miss the next 5 games? Opposition fans will be more disappointed he's not playing.

In fairness, his defence has been sound and he’s not much worse in attack than anyone else at present. I think it’s just frustrating that he’s not taken na game by the scruff of the neck when he’s been given the chance to show what he can do.

I hope Brown and Roberts finally click into gear on Friday.

stop moaning watts was red carded and so was patton both deserved it but pattons was by far the worst of the two

So what does Watts get for an intentional headbutt? As oppose to a reckless but uninentional high tackle?

It's come at the wrong time. Not much squad rotation over easter period now with us looking a bit threadbare.

We all think it was unintentional, but the panel decided there was intent.

Understood. But I see no reason why Patton cops for something that is deemed intentional but Watts gets off with something there is no denying was intentional.

That got me aswell,3 games for that. I’m just stumped.

.....because Patton make a reckless tackle that knocked a bloke out.
What is hard to understand about that?

So if he had done it intentionally how many games ban would he have got?

Made a fist, swinging arm, connects directly with jaw, player knocked out.

Should be a 5 game ban minimum, could easily have broke his jaw. He is hardly going to be a big miss for us.

how do you know it was just reckless player out cold just accept it .like I said both players deserve their punishment not making excuses for watts.

It was heat of the moment but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t dangerous. Patton isn’t a dirty player but they still have to set an example so other players know they won’t get away with trying it.

Hopefully when he’s back we’ll be in better form and he’ll look good in a better-performing team. In the meantime Livett can cover the backup half role.

Moaning? I've copied and pasted from the RFL website to provide perspective. Have a word with yourself champ

I am sure he will be more careful to play the ball on the mark next time, rather than sprinting downfield and copping for a second tackle.

Richie Mathers on Matt King identical...he only got 3 matches... it could be argued Mathers was much higher off the ground than Patton was too.
also King was stretchered off as he was unable to regain his feet.


I think the lesson here is when you have knocked someone out cold:
1. Apologise immediately to all those in the immediate vicinity of the incident.
2. Put your hand up to the ref and apolgise to him.
3. Put a hand on the unconscious player and attempt to wake him up with some soothing words of comfort.
4. Look crestfallen on receiving the red card.
5. Walk off the pitch slowly looking sad.

Patton followed none of the golden rules. He was still arguing with people as he was going off.... Naive Declan ...Naive.....

Didn't Mathers have to jump up in the air to connect with Matt King's jaw ?

I like the "leaving the field protocol " Biscuit.

Well that didn’t work for Ben Flower in the 2014 grand final?