Correct

That squad (unfortunately) is seriously lacking in grunt. I'm praying we don't get bullied. Bullied packs ALWAYS get beaten. We need more size,

Dodds is a fair size,and if he partners Hill,and the interchanges are England and Sims with Westwood, Harrison and Currie in the back row that's a decent pack on paper. ..... they just need a bit of controlled nastiness in em. ..they shouldn't be getting bullied. ..

I'd have liked a big prop and have sims in the second row to be honest.
I think Currie has to go in the centres for me.

Then after a couple of weeks England & Harrison injured ,Sims suspended & back to this years situation.We might do better with a plan of throwing the ball about more from tackle 1 instead of 5 forward drives then a panic play.

Agree with what you say about Sims, I think he is more suited to the second row.

As a long shot you could drop Cory Paterson in there, not everyone's cup of tea I know, but would add grunt along with a decent off load or two.

I agree, if we put Paterson in there, it would look a really good, tough pack, ideal for Sandow etc to create some magic.

patterson is a no go.

Cheers Builth post edited for spelling mistake, didn't think it at the time but having watched Luke Gale and Matt Cook kick on not to mention Tyrone could Welham do a good job for the wire for a couple of seasons, he's had his ups and downs but on his day seems a good player, we seem to stand and watch as other teams pick up players who go on to perform well.

Have we tried and had no luck?

i hate kris welham with a passion, the fella cannot defend to save his life and we've made him look like steve renouf this year.

He's a modern day stuart littler.

Would you not sign him though he is a left /winger and could alternate with Atkins, I understand your opinion of him as I said he's had his ups and downs, about his defence can we at wire compare him to anyone better this season?

The main point was we ask why have such a team signed whoever usually in derogatory terms and they go on to do well reaching Grand Finals, then we have Gale, Cook and others performing well, I'm sure I recall Gale being touted on here while at London it didn't go down too well, I wonder where he will turn up?

1 Luke Dorn - FB, SO
2 James Clare - WG, FB
3 Jake Webster , SR
4 Michael Shenton (c) - CE
5 Justin Carney - WG, CE
6 Ben Roberts - SO
7 Luke Gale - SH
8 Andy Lynch (vc) - PR
9 Adam Milner - HK
10 Grant Millington - SR, PR
11 Oliver Holmes - SR
12 Matt Cook - SR, CE
13 Nathan Massey - LF, PR
14 Lee Jewitt - PR
15 Ryan Boyle - PR
16 Junior Moors - SR, PR
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18 Frankie Mariano - SR
19 Scott Wheeldon - PR
20 Denny Solomona - WG, FB
21 Liam Finn - SH, HK
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23 Michael Channing - CE, SR
24 Mike McMeeken - SR
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26 Ashley Gibson - CE, WG
27 Ashley Robson - FB, SO
28 Will Maher - PR
29 Jordan Howden - LF
30 Brandon Westerman - SO, LF
31 Brandon Moore - HB, HK
32 Tom Holmes - HK
33 Ryan Bailey - PR
34 Gadwin Springer - PR
35 Paul McShane - HK

Interesting when you look at their squad, minus tansey and moore.

Would Lee Smith be worth signing as a centre? He's a big sturdy lad & is on a temporary contract with Wakey till after the play offs.

Jesus our standards have plummeted.

I hate to say it but that is easily the worst squad we have had since Tony Smith arrived at the club.

Lee smith and welham?? Good heavens is it the 90s again? I'm sure there's a cracking signing in the pipeline....well I hope so

Heard Andy Currier is still looking for a club.

Get vince fawcett as well whilst we're at it

He's still in his car pretending to be asleep during training, no one has told him DV2 has been gone 14 years now.

Preferably over the head.

It was just a thought as we need a and in truth he is the only one available, we are not going to get any one from the top teams, it's just a thought but we may not be a top team and so possibly need to build, beggars can't be choosers and all that, I'm just trying to be realistic.

Welham is no world beater but he has decent pace, makes breaks, puts players away and is quite strong, so being realistic and the way we have played this season we don't want any of that so will stick with what we have.

Anyone have any idea how Wheeler is coming along?

Lee Smith... Kris Welham??

im almost lost for words.

You may well be and I understand your reasons why but lets say we signed Welham for this season would we have got more from him than Bridge, Evans or wheeler? I think so by a mile, he's not that bad really Okay not a Sarginson, Gelling, Dawson or Jones alright that's a bit tongue in cheek, he wouldn't be my first choice but we have to get what's available if and it's a big if they are an improvement.

At present there are a lot that would improve our backline but not all are available.

Danny Brough was in the South Stand today.....he seemed to be enjoying Warrington's victory.