Yes, because we have had such an awful season with injuries. As it is, we go into the Grand Final without our two first choice halfbacks, plus our backup in Lomax, and possibly now without Jamie Foster, our little star on the wing. Because we have had so many injuries for the whole of the season, I think nicking second spot from Warrington and getting to the Grand Final has indeed been an amazing achievement.

Been pursuaded by my mates at Culcheth open age to go the grand final now. So guess i will be supporting whichever set off fans i am sat with. Never been a grand final so will be a good atmosphere hopefully

No. He's right. Disturbingly, I seem to be the most optimistic supporter we've got at the moment, although I don't necessarily think we'll win.



It's been a proper backs to the wall operation all season. None of us gave us any chance at the outset, and if you'd have told us about the amount of injuries we were going to get, I would have expected us to have finished outside the top four.

We are the underdogs and we go with hope rather than expectation. I'd say it's 60/40 in their favour.

Turnstile fairy. Need's to realise he ain't a footballer. Another Danny Arnold.

St Helens don't expect to win? So you say.

Interesting D.D. that you use St Helens trophy count against a rival team as part of your signature but no sign of a Man City trophy count against another football teams. Interesting.

The GF is a cracking afternoon/evening out. Always a great atmosphere whoever gets there. You'll enjoy it.

I went St Helens v Hull Grand Final. Didn't exactly enjoy it. St Helens fans= really arrogant, Hull fans= really obnoxious.

Jamie Foster? You think he's a defensive liability?

And he isn't a footballer? Probably not, actually. But he is a fine rugby league player already and he's only just turned 20. His positional sense is very good, he's nifty, he can catch a bomb and he works hard.

The Hull FC fans that I saw were pretty sound, nothing obnoxious about them. Gracious in defeat and all that.

Being a derby final this year, atmosphere should be electric. Shame I won't be around to take it all in.

I think he has the makings of a decent winger..But the way he whinge's and appeals to the ref after every single tackle is really annoying....!

When your mentor at the club is Paul Wellens it's hard not to pick up a few of his traits.

Saddened who is your avatar?

Just another Ian Hardman....two seasons at Saints tops, then you'll realise he isnt big enough and should have been on the weights at 14....

end up at Salford then Oldham...

Can We expect those REALLY wide open Eyes.....
like He spends all game being totally and utterly astonished at something.....

Sound like Bastian & co.

The legendary Wikus van de Merwe.

If you haven't watched District 9 go and rent it tomorrow.

It's the guy our of Discrict 9 i think, Wikus Van De Merwe

Awful defensively. Salford had a field day against him. That's where we went wrong not targeting him. He offers little in attack and benefits from playing outside of the best centre in the competition.

Foster is already better than that ginger kid you have.

How he has made it as a rugby league footballer amazes me

Probably because of his ability to kick goals and score walk-ins outside of Gidley.

Foster is gash. Good kicker though.

You are being far too harsh on Jamie Foster tbh.

I must admit I'd written him off after the Salford game on Sky. He is tiny and was clinically exposed defensively in that game. His performance was shocking in that game.

But since then he has performed brilliantly. His defensive performances have been fantastic, stopping all the big name wingers he came up against from doing anything. Look at how he played in the win at the DW Stadium against Wigan. They thought he might be susceptible to the high kicks, but he swallowed them all including a couple of crucial ones late on that won us the game.

Matt Gidley has had an awful season. He's been anonymous ever since he signed his final contract. i don't think we've seen a flick pass at all this year. Still a solid player, but it's not like he's laying oodles of easy chances on for Foster.

It's not interesting at all, City v Everton from the commencement of Saints great run of victories over Wire would be 0-0. That's more boring than Roberto Mancini and David Moyes tactics put together.

Interesting this Foster bashing.

I have to admit, after Potter threw him and Lomax together at Salford and they slashed us to pieces down that wing, my opinion was that he would never make it in a million years. He looked a broken man.

Since then, he as come in and proved us all wrong with a series of excellent performances. He was our man of the match in the semi-final against Leeds and his defensive work in running the ball out, positional play and fielding have been excellent.

Not the most gifted attacker I will give you that but most of us would certainly have him in our starting line up on Saturday and not just for goalkicking reasons.

As for playing outside the best centre in the league, Gidley has done sod all since about February and is well worthy of the retirement home if truth be known.

PS I have just noticed Saddened said exactly the same more or less and I can honestly say I wrote this without seeing it first.

Why don't you compare Wigan to St Helens just out of interest.

Not a fan of Mancini then? That the general consensus by the fans? He be likely to go?

Moyes' tactics shouldn't be snarled at. Makes us very hard to beat, just not pretty to watch at home versus the lesser sides. Very rarely put anyone to the sword despite having arguably two of the most top ten creative midfielders in the Prem.