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| just reading through some of the threads on the wigan board.... seems to be quite a few people not very happy with the way young tomkins is performing lately.
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| Penny performing well can only be good news for our recruitment for next year.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It's been coming for a few weeks that defeat and hopefully it will wake us up. We got exactly what we deserved last night and any injuries we may have are no excuse for blowing an 18point half time lead.
As for Kevin Penny he looked like a new player from the nervous wreck i've seen turn out for Wire at times. He ran the ball stronger then i've seen him do before and caused us all sorts of problems supporting halfbreaks. He really looked like a lad that can get his career back on track last night.'"
Thanks for the usual sensible input from NickyKiss. Quins' team was far better than the one they've put out up to now. Dorn is a big player for them.
No way to know but were all of Wigan's players injured, or were some rested in a miscalculation by the coach (Gleeson, Coley?)
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Oh really? Most posts on our site are saying Quins deserved their win. Care to take that statement back chump?'"
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Not on the thread where it says Quins deserved their win, the only gripe some have is that they didn't have a man sent to the sin bin after they had 5 pens conceded on the bounce which I think most fans would ask for. We weren't good enough though and Quins played smarter and better rugby than us. That you will find we accept. As it happened for you at Hull KR the other week, players missing and players playing out of position no matter how good you are takes it out on you at some point as it has done with other teams already this year. I fancy Leeds to win tonight at Knowsley Road, Saints side is very weak and it would be a shock tonight if Saints got a result.'"
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"just reading through some of the threads on the wigan board.... seems to be quite a few people not very happy with the way young tomkins is performing lately.'"
Why are they surprised though. They have built him up on some pedestal like hes the new Alex Murphy or something when its plain to see, at least for me, he is nothing but a solid SL halfback and nor will he be anything else.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss" As for Kevin Penny he looked like a new player from the nervous wreck i've seen turn out for Wire at times. He ran the ball stronger then i've seen him do before and caused us all sorts of problems supporting halfbreaks. He really looked like a lad that can get his career back on track last night.'"
thats great to hear,... i always liked penny and want him to come back to warrington as a first teamer!!
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| I'd be mega surprised if I ever see Penny play for Warrington again.
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| Quote ="seanm89"thats great to hear,... i always liked penny and want him to come back to warrington as a first teamer!!'"
Penny was chucked into the Wolves team as a kid and basically wasnt able to handle the rigors of SL. A short spell at Widnes did his game a world of good but (with the greatest respect) Widnes aint SL. Now he has a chance to gain regular experience against SL teams and is also maturing as a player. If the lad turns out to be good enough for Wolves then so be it.
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"Why are they surprised though. They have built him up on some pedestal like hes the new Alex Murphy or something when its plain to see, at least for me, he is nothing but a solid SL halfback and nor will he be anything else.'"
Has out performed Eastmond all the way through the academy and in the last game also. Does that mean Eastmond is nothing more than solid?
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| Quote ="Pieman"Has out performed Eastmond all the way through the academy and in the last game also. Does that mean Eastmond is nothing more than solid?'"
I'd take Eastmond anyday.
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| Here we go again. Eastmond and Tomkins are the two most exciting half backs to come through the ranks in the past five years and stupid Wire fans are trying to do one of them down.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Here we go again. Eastmond and Tomkins are the two most exciting half backs to come through the ranks in the past five years and stupid Wire fans are trying to do one of them down.'"
Who is trying to "do them down"? I stated that out of the two i would take Eastmond, sorry i was aware that this was a forum, where you can voice your opinions.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"I'd take Eastmond anyday.'"
Don't know really ?
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Tomkins at 6
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That's not because i think Eastmond is a lesser 6 or 7 than Tomkins & Myler but that he's more versatile.
If Penny played outside of Eastmond for England he'd see a lot more of the ball too.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Who is trying to "do them down"? I stated that out of the two i would take Eastmond, sorry i was aware that this was a forum, where you can voice your opinions.'"
"One of them". Read the thread rather than thinking I'm having a go at you.
Quotes like "one trick pony", "has one good game then six where he does nothing".
Forum, voicing opinions. Yes, people will disagree. Don't throw your dummy out if they do.
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| IMO - Tomkins is more than a solid SL player as said above, Tomkins is very creative and can win games single handed, also he has a very good kicking game.
However i think Eastmond has a better kicking game than Tomkins. Eastmond is versatile, creative, skillfull, he's an "all rounder" if you like not to menshion Kyle's superb goal kicking. Because of his goal kicking, versatility and slight more creativeness he edges it.
Two great starts of the future though and this is only good for the game, I'd maybe put Eastmond at FB. He's been playing very well there in the games he's had to fill the void there this season and with the only likely other contender being Briscoe i'd play him there.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire""One of them". Read the thread rather than thinking I'm having a go at you.
Quotes like "one trick pony", "has one good game then six where he does nothing".
Forum, voicing opinions. Yes, people will disagree. Don't throw your dummy out if they do.'"
Well you did say Wire fans. I think you will find you were the one spitting your dummy out.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire""One of them". Read the thread rather than thinking I'm having a go at you.
Quotes like "one trick pony", "has one good game then six where he does nothing".
Forum, voicing opinions. Yes, people will disagree. Don't throw your dummy out if they do.'"
im entitled to an opinion just like you..my opinion of tomkins may differ to yours(big deal)..in fact i`d take eastmond any day..now is that ok for you or are we to have another slanging match...
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"im entitled to an opinion just like you..my opinion of tomkins may differ to yours(big deal)..in fact i`d take eastmond any day..now is that ok for you or are we to have another slanging match...'"
Thankyou. Just an idiot always trying to pick an arguement, that one.
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| Jeez. My opinion is that a good number of posters on here have knees that jerk at the slightest thing, i.e. Tomkins having a poor game or Quins beating Wigan. Having an opinion means you might expect people to disagree rather than blubbing about it when someone criticises it. No need for a slanging match, just stop coming on and saying "I'm entitled to an opinion". I know you bloody well are, that's what the whole forum's about.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Thankyou. Just an idiot always trying to pick an arguement, that one.'"
At least I can spell it.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue" I fancy Leeds to win tonight at Knowsley Road, Saints side is very weak and it would be a shock tonight if Saints got a result.'"
consider yourself shocked then....
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| Ask any Wire fan if they'd have Tomkins playing or Wire, if any of them say NO then they know nothing about rugby.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Ask any Wire fan if they'd have Tomkins playing or Wire, if any of them say NO then they know nothing about rugby.'"
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"At least I can spell it.'"
Stop derailing the thread.
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