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| Quote ="Guerrier"Yes, that's it.
Lima wasn't banned for that technique at all, was he?'"
That was an exception to the rule... Wigan have been crippling players to long to win matches, it needs to be stopped.
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| i think its fine to tackle round the legs, but i dont agree with going high and having the legs then trying to put them on their back.
if your up top, and being marched backwards, youve lost the collison. yes have someone take the legs to get them down, but dont turn them on their back. if someones wrapped around the legs and the chest and twist, obviously the whole body wont twist which causes injury. either go high or low and win the collision, or if you lose the collision go high and low to get them down, just dont think its acceptable to try to then win the collision back by risking injury to players as we have seen this week and last week.
hope this makes sense, i know what i mean anyway.
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| Makes perfect sense, and the Wigan fans know its wrong.
As one of the previous posters says, lets see two players clamp Tomkins up top, then a player clamp his legs, then they all twist in different directions untill one of his joints goes..... then lets see if "injuries occur in contact sports" is the line they come out with.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"Coley was again involved in a dubious round the knees twist tackle that resulted in sam moa going off like sol last week. Just been on hull
board and it mentions that sam squared up to coley on the bench obviously a bit pi$$ed off about it. Perhaps pies aren't so innocent and
TS was right to question that tackle on Sol.'"
Can't have caused too severe an injury if he was able to try to instigate a fight. Move along, nothing to see.
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| nowt wrong with their tackling as far as I could see.
They mess about at the ruck like no other team which is quite annoying. and off side and Standing square just doenst apply to them which again is annoying.
the "ridiculous play the ball gift of a try" was outrageous not for its bad pass which gifted Wigan 6 points but the fact that the two Wigan markers had a yard in between them at the play ball and were as side by side as two Human beings possibly could be.....
Hull lost that game through their own errors the win was there for the taking
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| Seem to remember Sam Tompkins doing it to Kieran Cunningham last season diving at the knees so it's something that's not new but is trained into the Wigan players as part of their tackling technique and should be banned ! The RFL should act before a player loses his career over this sort of technique !
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| Look, it's clear that Wigan push the boundaries of the rules, pretty much every time they take to the field, both in defence and at times I feel when they have the ball but they aren't going to change now when it's delivering silverware and ultimately that's what it all comes down to.
The good thing is, when Fadge is gone, Wane is clearly a dunce.
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| I've no problem when they do it legally hitting the thigh/hip/stomach and driving through the tackle forcing the player backwards - Liam Farrell did this very well as 3rd man in I noticed, good, fair technique. It's when the initial impact is on the knee joint with all the weight is going down causing almost instant (and severe) injury. Ban Coley for at least 4 weeks for that, nothing but intent to injure Moa IMO.
And I don't wish injury on any player but it doesn't seem anything or anyone will stop Wigan with this poor technique until unfortunately someone does it to one of their key players in Tomkins or Lockers.
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Ah I see the the impact your allowed to tackle is moving up, first you lot were complaining about below the knee tackles, now it's on the knee tackles, next week it will be moaning about tackles below the waist.
Besides maybe you should get your own house in order before you're players injure someone with their poor technique
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2995
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2989
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Ah I see the the impact your allowed to tackle is moving up, first you lot were complaining about below the knee tackles, now it's on the knee tackles, next week it will be moaning about tackles below the waist.
Besides maybe you should get your own house in order before you're players injure someone with their poor technique
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2995
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2989
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Quote ="Enicomb"Ah I see the the impact your allowed to tackle is moving up, first you lot were complaining about below the knee tackles, now it's on the knee tackles, next week it will be moaning about tackles below the waist.
Besides maybe you should get your own house in order before you're players injure someone with their poor technique
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2995
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2989'"
i still maintain you are one of the most blinkered, ill informed, biased, piece of crud i have ever come accross on any internet forum! your knowledge of rugby league could be written on the head of a pin!
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Quote ="Enicomb"Ah I see the the impact your allowed to tackle is moving up, first you lot were complaining about below the knee tackles, now it's on the knee tackles, next week it will be moaning about tackles below the waist.
Besides maybe you should get your own house in order before you're players injure someone with their poor technique
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2995
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2989'"
i still maintain you are one of the most blinkered, ill informed, biased, piece of crud i have ever come accross on any internet forum! your knowledge of rugby league could be written on the head of a pin!
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Can't have caused too severe an injury if he was able to try to instigate a fight. Move along, nothing to see.'"
You dont have talk some s%^^e
Are you a race horse? You seem to wear those blinkers alot - move along - only damaged knees to see
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| Quote ="SLIMply no treble!"i still maintain you are one of the most blinkered, ill informed, biased, piece of crud i have ever come accross on any internet forum! your knowledge of rugby league could be written on the head of a pin!'"
+1
There must be some good posters out there, who support Wigan. As many of us norma folk are banned from the pie board (not me, I just don't like it there) the only taster we get of wigan fans is;
King warrior- ...
Odem-whiner
Enicomb (sp)
And Rouges
They are reallyt a disgrace and no wonder a lot of people on here have little time for some of their 'fans'
I honestly don't know who is worse and there are more that could be included..
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| Nickykiss
inside man
Guerrier
are quite decent posters, fair and honest like. 21-12 isn't actually that to be honest. A few more on here were quite good when that preistman started throwing around IRA insults. To be honest, I think some of them see it as a badge of honour to come on here trolling, so they can get tossed off on Cherry and White for trolling. They seem to be able to do and say what they want, probably why they do it so often.
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| Quote ="i hate pies"i think its fine to tackle round the legs, but i dont agree with going high and having the legs then trying to put them on their back.
[size=150if your up top, and being marched backwards, youve lost the collison.[/size yes have someone take the legs to get them down, but dont turn them on their back. if someones wrapped around the legs and the chest and twist, obviously the whole body wont twist which causes injury. either go high or low and win the collision, or if you lose the collision go high and low to get them down, just dont think its acceptable to try to then win the collision back by risking injury to players as we have seen this week and last week.
hope this makes sense, i know what i mean anyway.'"
Then the ref should be shouting dominant and the players should release the tackled player and no injuries have happened.
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| I am a Wigan fan and like other people on here I understand the concern people are having about these types of tackles. Wigan are clearly using a three-man tackle with the aim at putting the man on his back to slow the play of the ball down, to let the defense get itself set again. This to my mind is just good defensive tactics played to the limit of the rules brought over by a very smart coach. I don't believe for one moment that Coley is trying to deliberately injure another player. All the Wigan players surely understand that "what goes around, comes around". The real issue is that when you have been playing 30-40 minutes and you are tired, your tackling technique becomes sloppy and then you have a real chance at hurting another player, and that is why the RL needs to look at this. Other teams will start copying Wigans technique and then we may see a whole spate of injuries to players, so it needs to be examined very soon. My other worry however is that we can legislate against these slow the ball tactics, but go the other way so that the game becomes like Rugby Sevens where the defense can never get set. That to me would get boring as well. I like to see Rugby where attacking skills and defence is in balance - without one dominating the other.
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| If our tackling technique was as bad as some people make out, opposition teams wouldnt have any players left by the end of every match, and our players would be banned all the time.
Fact is, if we were 8th in the league and knocked out the cup but still tackling the way we do, no-one would bat an eyelid, but because we're doing so well someone somewhere has to find smething to complain about
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| Descent balanced post Tactitus. I just think that Wigan are the main the main culprits using this technique and when you consider that big sol came
off at the start of the second half and Sam Moa came off midway through the second half I don't think it can be attributed to just tiredness.
Have to say though that Wigan really seemed to be holding down far too often and should have been penalized more. That last set of
6 at the end of the first half, Wigan were penalized 3 times in a set of six and someone should have been sinbinned. No-one would begrudge
you as worthy champions but your glory is tinged with a bitter taste of 'pushing the rules/cheating.
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| Quote ="Ron"That was an exception to the rule... Wigan have been crippling players to long to win matches, it needs to be stopped.'"
We have still do not have this list of players "crippled" by the Wigan technique... It was YOU who said there is a list of people... and you keep being asked for it.... as the old saying goes "put up, or shut up"
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| We can start it,
Moa
Solomona
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| Wait till this type of tackling filters down into the juniors, then participation levels will drop further with kids being injured left right and centre, well done Wigan.
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| Wigan Peer- 'We have still do not have this list of players "crippled" by the Wigan technique..
Are you Yoda in disguise?
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| Quote ="Ron"Wait till this type of tackling filters down into the juniors, then participation levels will drop further with kids being injured left right and centre, well done Wigan.'"
Your beginning to sound like Fraser off Dads army
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| Quote ="hatty"Your beginning to sound like Fraser off Dads army'"
Stop trolling.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"Wigan Peer- 'We have still do not have this list of players "crippled" by the Wigan technique..
Are you Yoda in disguise?'"
Just trolling... Ron has been a pain in the ass, just reminding of what he promised...
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| Had a few beers and even though i've posted on here I misread 'tackling' as 'tickling' which makes this topic and others with the second letter
swopped from 'a' to 'i' quite funny. Same with tackle to tickle. It's rugby league changed to Ken Dodd with one letter change. I'm fairly
hammered at the moment and will regret posting this stupid message tomorrow but it has made me chuckle re-reading this thread and others
with the letter swop.
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