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| I remember the days when people used to say that Brian Noble wasn't a good coach because "anybody could coach Bradford to win titles with the squad they've got"
But at the same time they regarded lots of their players as average...Spruce, Naylor, McAvoy, Brooker, Hudson Smith, Shane Rigon.
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| Feka
Phil Bailey
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| Joel Tomkins
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Half of that double winning side of Stains in 1996. Some were v average
Karle Hammond
Joey Hayes
That back rower who's name escapes me (Andy someone, think he was ex Crosfields)
Still a bloody good SIDE though (pains me to say it)'"
Lay off Karle Hammond, he was a great player. One of the most intelligent players Super League has seen.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Feka
Phil Bailey
Darrell Goulding'"
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| Quote ="Tin Soldier"Joel Tomkins'"
Now you really are having a laugh
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| Quote ="Ged Byrne's Shammy"icon_rolleyes.gif'"
what don't you agree with there. feka was horrendous, goulding is a poor player in a good side and phil bailey is turd.
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| I'l' throw in to the mix, Jon Clarke,
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Lay off Karle Hammond, he was a great player. One of the most intelligent players Super League has seen.'"
Someone's just thrown away the sherry bottle, and started looking lovingly at the advocaat, and the Tia Maria
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| Quote ="Ged Byrne's Shammy"icon_rolleyes.gif'"
Whilst rolling your eyes, you do realise that:
a) I am a Wigan fan.
and b) all those players are decidedly average.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Half of that double winning side of Stains in 1996. Some were v average
Karle Hammond
Joey Hayes
That back rower who's name escapes me (Andy someone, think he was ex Crosfields)
Still a bloody good SIDE though (pains me to say it)'"
Do you mean Andy Haigh?
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I remember the days when people used to say that Brian Noble wasn't a good coach because "anybody could coach Bradford to win titles with the squad they've got"
But at the same time they regarded lots of their players as average...Spruce, Naylor, McAvoy, Brooker, Hudson Smith, Shane Rigon.'"
Spruce was a quality player on the sly
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| Quote ="Oggy7"Do you mean Andy Haigh?'"
he's on about the prop, andy leatham, who we had on loan in 99, and did a reasonable job.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"what don't you agree with there. feka was horrendous, goulding is a poor player in a good side and phil bailey is turd.'"
Baily is a turd . Now there is a comment full of thought insight and knowledge.
Clown!
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| Quote ="Tin Soldier"Joel Tomkins'"
Oh dear
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"he's on about the prop, andy leatham, who we had on loan in 99, and did a reasonable job.'"
That's the one Cat, just couldn't think of his surname
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| Quote ="DANN"Quote ="Tin Soldier"Joel Tomkins'"
Oh dear
'" Quote ="Ged Byrne's Shammy"Now you really are having a laugh
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No. I just don't believe that he's a good enough player for a 'champion' side. And the fact that he put's in cheap shots at (usually) smaller opponents adds weight to my argument. Mid table player for me.
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| Quote ="DANN"Baily is a turd . Now there is a comment full of thought insight and knowledge.
Clown!'"
no, read it again, i didn't say he is A turd, i said he is TURD, also known as rubbish, garbage, big sack of useless sh*t.
Moron.
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| Quote ="Tin Soldier"No. I just don't believe that he's a good enough player for a 'champion' side. And the fact that he put's in cheap shots at (usually) smaller opponents adds weight to my argument. Mid table player for me.'"
Then I don't think you've watched Wigan enough. Fantastic attacking second rower, puts himself about in defence. Hopefully now he's made the switch to centre he can work on his positioning as he's got the speed, size and handling skills to potentially be one of the best in the league.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Then I don't think you've watched Wigan enough. Fantastic attacking second rower, puts himself about in defence. Hopefully now he's made the switch to centre he can work on his positioning as he's got the speed, size and handling skills to potentially be one of the best in the league.'"
If he is a permanent fixture at centre, his dearth of lateral movement will be heavily exposed.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"what don't you agree with there. feka was horrendous, goulding is a poor player in a good side and phil bailey is turd.'"
Besides which, Inside_man is a Wigan supporter.
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| Quote ="Tin Soldier"No. I just don't believe that he's a good enough player for a 'champion' side. And the fact that he put's in cheap shots at (usually) smaller opponents adds weight to my argument. Mid table player for me.'"
Cheap shots is something that you may have a point on. He has at times overstepped the mark but hes not alone. As for mid table the fact that a champion coach selected him everytime he was available for what became the champion side would suggest hes not a mid table player, but maybe you know more than Mcguire? He is a Wigan player and I suggest thats the issue here?
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| Quote ="DANN"Cheap shots is something that you may have a point on. He has at times overstepped the mark but hes not alone. As for mid table the fact that a champion coach selected him everytime he was available for what became the champion side would suggest hes not a mid table player, but maybe you know more than Mcguire? He is a Wigan player and I suggest thats the issue here?'"
People have different views my friend. None are right. None are wrong. Just different.
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| Quote ="Tin Soldier"People have different views my friend. None are right. None are wrong. Just different.'"
Dont have a problem with that mate
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| I'll be honest. I have never been impressed with Joel.
I can't account for McGuire picking him in the team. It may be that he rates him. Or it may be that he is good for the money =. He may be a squad a player. Like Higham or Grix or someone.
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