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| Nick Scuton above Woody in the pecking order is also quite laughable.
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| Quote ="Major Tom"Any reason Paul Wood isn't in there? From what I've seen of you guys this season he's been far better than Carvell and is superior statistically.'"
I agree Carvell has not looked the same since he returned from injury. Wood has had his best season probably and deserves a call up. Can only see Morley, Westwood and Atkins getting a game with Myler and Harrison( depending on injury) making the squad.
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| It is obvious club bias from Smith.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"It is obvious club bias from Smith.'"
When did he go back as coach?
As many club trained players as Widnes well done
edit Harrison too... be interesting to see if he get's a shout! A good player but one place we are strong is the back row!
Myler was always getting in as is one of the only natural 7's about (maybe Brough, Burrow's time passed?).
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| Why no mathers???
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| Quote ="leagueorunion"Why no mathers???
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| cos he's no good and has been warrington's weak link in attacking play all season.
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| Quote ="leagueorunion"Why no mathers???
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Quote ="Boyd-Tamati-Jackson"cos he's no good and has been warrington's weak link in attacking play all season.'"
Haha he got a bite
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| Theres always one lol
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| Very harsh on Pwood that, been much more consistent than Carvell imo. Glad to see Atkins and Riley in there.
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| Only ones in there that I would query is Higham, Carvell and Myler.
Higham - Is he really good enough? Nowhere near imo, scooting from dummy half isn't good enough for internationals.
Carvell - Looked a shadow of his former shelf to me, Wood has impressed me more, but I'd hope Fielden + Coley get some recognition if Carvell has.
And lastly Myler, I understand why he's in there as he should be there or thereabouts in the future, but if he's in ahead of Burrow or someone else like that then I dont really understand it.
The rest fully deserve to be in there though, especially Atkins and Riley, they deserve some recognition. As Rileys in there I'd hope to see Goulding in as well.
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| Quote ="Supreme Optimist"Very harsh on Pwood that, been much more consistent than Carvell imo. Glad to see Atkins and Riley in there.'"
Agreed Wood> Carvell, noticeably so at times, including Saturday.
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| Carvell over Wood is a bit of a joke in all honesty... well based on form anyway.
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| Thought Wood was our m.o.m. against Hudds.
Thought Morley struggled against Eorl C. - mind you he wasn't the only one/
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Carvell over Wood is a bit of a joke in all honesty... well based on form anyway.'"
Are we forgetting who the England coach is though?
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| Quote ="fes"Thought Wood was our m.o.m. against Hudds.'"
I'd of give it Higham.
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| Carvell over Woody?
I'd be gutted if I was Woody.
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| Delighted for Riley, his mum would be made up for him.
Paul Wood should be in ahead of Gaz Carvell, can't see Macca's reasoning on this.
Myler has been rested to stop him being targeted by the best in Super League, what the hell will the Aussies and Kiwi's do to him, not to mention the big hitting PNG lads inspired by 34 year old Stanley Gene.
One last note, remember Jimmy is assistant coach so he must have had a say in the selections. Unless Coach Brian Smith really is running the show.
Pleased for any player from any club who gets the honour of representing their country so well done to all.
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| Quote ="el red"
Myler has been rested to stop him being targeted by the best in Super League, '"
So people keep saying....
Smith said he rested him for the semi because Catalans had targeted him two weeks previously. I don't know if that is the reason he didn't pick him for Huddersfield (or why he was left out initially for the St Helens game). He did have a knock after the Sts game.
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| I'm still in shock that Sykes is in there
Our best England team, IMO, would be...
1. Garreth Widdop
2. Ryan Hall
3. Ryan Atkins
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5. Tom Briscoe
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Kyle Eastmond
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Sam Burgess
Joel Tomkins
James Roby
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Id' of left out Garreth Widdop and put Tomkins at full back if McGuire hadn't of become injuired, because I think Tomkins has been brilliant at full back this season and McGuire has been fantastic, however, I've drifted in Widdop and moved Tomkins to 6. I've also started with Kevin Sinfield at hooker, everytime I've seen him at hooker this year he has been fantastic, and you cannot leave out Sean O'Loughlin, he's been brilliant all year, also I think you need Sinfield on the field for his immpeccale goal kicking, because lets face it Jonathan Thurston won't be missing many, and also his leadership, yes Morley brings that but he won't be on the field all game, also I think James Roby is a great impact hooker and would prove more benfical coming on from the bench. I think Ben Westwood has to start, he offers everything; tackles, carriers, workrate and not afraid to put his body on the line, for me he has to play the full eighty. We will also benefit with a player of Burgess' calibre coming off the bench, alternating with Morley/Graham at Prop, with young Tomkins interchanging with Ellis. Tomkins has to learn to keep his disclipine, however.
I've left out centre and another interchange, centre is obviously a pick out of Shenton, Senior or Gleeson, now that Bridge has ruled himself out, or he'd be in their for me. The final bench spot, I have no idea. Thoughts?
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| 4th interchange? Ben Harrison?
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| Keith senior will never get picked by McNamara, neither would Pryce if fit. Something about not having the right personalities for the group, I thought we were going over to win it not just have a happy camp.
I couldn't give two hoots if all the squad hated each other as long as we win.
I also think Widdop may play at stand off, he played rep footy there early this year and that's where Melbourne will play him next year. That will allow Tomkins to stay at full back.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"4th interchange? Ben Harrison?'"
Interesting one. If we were to include Ben Harrison, I think I'd be taking Joel Tomkins out as we don't really need 3 second rowers on the bench, and also Ben is bigger and more muscular so would be more benefical when playing against the big Aussie and Kiwi packs and the likes of Ashley Harrison, Petero and Thaiday etc. It would also tighten our disclipine up. Who would your centre be? And don't you think we might need a back in there for when things aren't going to plan? Maybe a Leon Pryce or a Rob Burrow just to add something different into the game? Or maybe even switch Eastmond to centre, he's played their before.
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