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| Quote ="P-J"Clearly we were watching a different game (and a different team last season). Wigan employ three men in the tackle to control the speed of the play the ball. Getting those guys back to the defensive line is exhausting, which is why few teams in SL can do it. Thankfully Maguire has Wigan extremely well conditioned. It's simply sour grapes to claim it's lying on.
St George were out on their feet for the last ten minutes of that game. They were ALL over the Wigan players in the tackle and then of course miraculously avoided a sin binning for a professional foul on Coley at the end.
Wigan pushed the NRL champions very close. Of course we were outplayed, the NRL is the superior competition. I wasn't expecting to win the game. Very proud of that effort from my team.'"
No, it's quite easy to get back actually. You get off one at a time and the last man up simply becomes the second acting half. Leeds have been doing the same things for years, as have Huddersfield, it's just that Wigan have learnt to do it pretty well.
Are you a Wigan fan? If I'd have been a pie eater I would have been there tonight no matter where I lived.
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| Imagine how good ST George will be when they're playing 'in season' when their fitness level will be at its peak...
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| How quiet can 24k people be as well? Zero atmosphere.
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| The picture of Tomkins crying;
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| Quote ="Tin Soldier"How quiet can 24k people be as well? Zero atmosphere.'"
It was terrible. It was like a church. Nice to see I wasn't only me who picked up on this.
EDIT: Their's a topic on it on the Wigan board.
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| Looks like he hurt his nose with that head butt.
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| My last thought on the game is about Sam Tomkins. I've said it before and I'll say it again. He ain't no full back. His [uattacking[/u from that position is good but his defence ain't. He got steam rollered on a couple of occasions when St George scored in the 1st half. He just hasn't got the size for that position. I'd play him at stand off.
Oh, and he needs to cut out the arm holding when he's tackled. Refs are getting wise to it and he'll become a liability to his team if he carries on with it.
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| Quote ="Tin Soldier"My last thought on the game is about Sam Tomkins. I've said it before and I'll say it again. He ain't no full back. His [uattacking[/u from that position is good but his defence ain't. He got steam rollered on a couple of occasions when St George scored in the 1st half. He just hasn't got the size for that position. I'd play him at stand off.
Oh, and he needs to cut out the arm holding when he's tackled. Refs are getting wise to it and he'll become a liability to his team if he carries on with it.'"
I agree. It also opens him up to taking big shots - both when he's catching the ball and when he's taking it up after a kick.
Maguire's going to keep him there though as he's a nightmare to pick up when attacking the line from FB.
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| Did you not no the wigan fans are considering themselves to be 'ULTRAS'.... very quiet tonight them flags they were waving aswell were also laughable the st george fans out did them with theres least a bit of effort went into them.
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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf"The picture of Tomkins crying;
For everything else there is MasterCard. Priceless'"
Why? It's good to see a player passionate about his team and his performance and for the game to mean so much to him.
I'd prefer him to be emiotional than just run off the pitch and not care.
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| Quote ="P-J"You're joking, right? They were lying on all game and ended up committing professional fouls at the end. As for the blueprint - good luck.
Happy with that performance. It's only a friendly after all. Good to see a SL team can run an NRL side close.'"
Lol, how can Wigan complain about lying on in the tackle, I think the look on the Wigan players face at the end demonstrated that this was not a friendly, it is nice to see a SL team can run an NRL team close........even though said NRL team has only played one friendly game so far before tonight and Wigan are 2 games in with 2/3 friendlies behind them
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| Beat by a better team, end of
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"'Oh when the Saints go marching in' played loudly at the DW Stadium. That has got to hurt.'"
I particularly enjoyed that bit.
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| Quote ="behind the stick"Why? It's good to see a player passionate about his team and his performance and for the game to mean so much to him.
I'd prefer him to be emiotional than just run off the pitch and not care.'"
Ouch.
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| Went to the DW tonight to witness one of the best back lines in the game. I am still puzzled as to how Morris didn't end up with four. To the Wiganer saying St George were out on their feet for the last ten, sorry Chief, you are well of the mark. Last five minutes of the first half; yes. The last ten minutes of the game, they were throwing the ball around in a most un-Australian way.
The simple fact of the matter is Wigan utilise an NRL-orientated approach to controlling the PTB. St George are simply better at doing the exact same thing.
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| These sad Wire fans who are making fun of Tomkins would kiss his backside if he played for us.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"These sad Wire fans who are making fun of Tomkins would kiss his backside if he played for us.'"
Quality player, don't like his arm holding in the tackle when he has the ball to milk a penalty but quality player non the less.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"These sad Wire fans who are making fun of Tomkins would kiss his backside if he played for us.'"
Yeah but he doesn't play for us.
If I was from Wigan, I'd support Wigan.
If I was smarter and had more driver, I'd probably;y be richer and more successful
If I wasn't such a misanthrope, I'd have more friends.
Fact is ifs and buts mean very little.
Not that I am one of the people taking glee in his hurt, but i certianly understand why some people are.
He's a runt and a cheat. He has a bag of skill and chooses to let his game get dominated by niggles such as head butting players on the floor and trapping the arm (and now the leg) of players to CON the ref.
I'd be disappointed if he did those things in the PnB.
Usually you are quite the insightful poster. Not usually hypotheticals and conjecture.
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| Hmmm JD is taking on Sally
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| Quote ="Yed"Hmmm JD is taking on Sally
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it wont end well, will it!
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| Quote ="Yed"
Quality player, don't like his arm holding in the tackle when he has the ball to milk a penalty but quality player non the less.'"
you see I dont mind that, he rarely (if ever to my mind) gets penalised for it but gets his team plenty of penalties by doing it...so why stop ?
its out and out cheating but if the refs are too stupid to spot it its not Tomkins fault.
And if opposition players are also too stupid to not spot it and let the ref know or give Tomkins a crack to highlight the illegal play for the ref, then again not his fault.
What I would have problem with is his pooh house tactics like going in on Morris with the Knees,
head butting a player on the floor for no apparant reason
the cowardly 3rd man in from behind or the side aiming at the knees, as was first made famous when he did it on Cunningham.
he's generally an on field tool and forgetting the years he has ahead of him in the game this season I wouldnt have him at Stand off over Lee briers nor full back over Brett Hodgson...
next year if he became less of a knob I'd have him in our team no danger
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| Quote ="Yed"Hmmm JD is taking on Sally
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Was about time, i figured.
No, not really!!
It was like when you learn wrestling is fake. It is the first time i have really disagreed with what sally has said.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"full marks for the irony in this post'"
for some reason, im not sure it was intended sally!
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| If i was more successful i'd have more drivers, 1 is never enough
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