That's Marg's chariot Dave ,she's a 1% er now ,scream if you want to go faster.


I don't think i will bother with season ticket next season ,my eyesight is going worse & i can really only see through one eye now. This appointment will certainly add to the Wire roller coaster though.

No one in particular. I’m not in an administrative role at a SL club, and so don’t have those type of contacts, so can’t put together a shortlist. I can guarantee there are good choices available. Saints keep finding them, though admittedly their context is different.

Are the ones that saints keep finding nrl assistants that are yet to win anything? Same as Maguire when Wigan appointed him.

Can you really? One that isn't just as much of a punt as Sam? Don't buy into the drivel coming out of Redvee and co at the moment - nothing they love more than trying to wind us up. They can't read the future any more than we can.

As you say - not the same context - easier to attract people when you're going for a fifth title in a row. Not so easy when you're picking yourself up from the mess left by Powell.

I genuinely cannot think of a more exciting option at the moment. Nothing fills me with despair more than when I see names like Kear or Rowley bandied round - imo that would be accepting mediocrity.

Most of the noise coming from down under sees this as a great move by us. I'm more inclined to go with that than the slightly more partisan offerings from the brains trust that is the St Helens supporters forum.

Not everyone is mocking the idea. It's a huge risk for Warrington, of course it is, but it's also got a very high ceiling. If it works, it could be spectacular. I think if it does, it'll be short lived and he'll be off to get an NRL job, but the key thing for Warrington is harnessing his mentality and determination and embedding it into the club, so he can leave and the success can continue.

I can't wait to see what he does with some of your players. He's not going to accept Matt Dufty's attitude for one and if this Charnley/Maguire divide everyone talks about is real, I think he'll find that laughable too.

Don't under estimate the power of Gary Chambers when laying the foundations for Sam Burgess's start. You're commenting under the assumption that Dufty will still be at the club, despite being contracted until the end of 2024.

Good news that Abe.

Thanks.

Now need to sign a decent winger and move Thewlis to fullback.

Not sure where this stuff about Dufty and attitude comes from?

He’s a rocks and diamonds player. Not because he’s got a bad attitude but because he has some great positives and terrible negatives. He also suffers when the confidence of the team drops. Some players do. That’s jus the way it is, though, and we signed him knowing this. Not his fault we aren’t good enough to hide his frailties.

I don’t see any bad stink of an attitude in there at all, unless you rely on Phil Clarke for all your rumours.

Not sure where this stuff about Dufty and attitude comes from?

He’s a rocks and diamonds player. Not because he’s got a bad attitude but because he has some great positives and terrible negatives. He also suffers when the confidence of the team drops. Some players do. That’s jus the way it is, though, and we signed him knowing this. Not his fault we aren’t good enough to hide his frailties.

I don’t see any bad stink of an attitude in there at all, unless you rely on Phil Clarke for all your rumours.

So after all the dust settles from the rumours there is no clear out to change the culture.

No brains trust of long and Co joining to add some flair.

Instead it's literally a hail Mary gamble on Burgess.

I can't believe Warrington have said what have we got to lose, that's hardly a vote of confidence in the guy they have just appointed.

He might find it laughable but it's still a problem which requires resolving or managing.

James Graham on Sam Burgess appointment. https://twitter.com/davekell13/status/1 ... 35680?s=61

James Graham on Sam Burgess appointment. https://twitter.com/davekell13/status/1 ... 35680?s=61

Really? I've seen more Gil Dudson line breaks over the last week than posts from non-Wire fans that weren't sticking the boot in.

I fully agree.

I think there are attitudes I would have had a go at before Dufty. For me he is a streaky player - when his confidence is up there is no stopping him. Trouble is of late his confidence has been taking a hit early in matches and his head goes down. I think he wants to do well, he just needs to put any errors he does commit out of his mind. Some will say that's attitude, but for me - just confidence.

As for the Charnley/Maguire thing - is that still there? Was it ever? I hope not.

Who's said this? If Long has left Featherstone then maybe it still just hasn't been announced?

Quote ="matt_wire"Who's said this? If Long has left Featherstone then maybe it still just hasn't been announced?'" https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/66455513

Quote ="matt_wire"Who's said this? If Long has left Featherstone then maybe it still just hasn't been announced?'" https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/66455513

Quote ="karetaker"James Graham on Sam Burgess appointment. https://twitter.com/davekell13/status/1 ... 35680?s=61'" Horrible ginger gobe.

Quote ="karetaker"James Graham on Sam Burgess appointment. https://twitter.com/davekell13/status/1 ... 35680?s=61'" Horrible ginger gobe.

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An well, I'm glad. Didn't want that scrote near us.

That's the nature of rumours - different 'facts' were conflated. Sam will no doubt have his own ideas for his assistant(s).

It might be one 'figuratively speaking'. It definitely is not 'literally' one. Back to school for you I'm afraid.

They haven't. Read the press release by our chairman and you might gain some insight into the actual reasoning behind the appointment. Now, be a good troll and bore off back under the rock whence you crawled.

I agree with the Dufty rocks and diamonds analogy, but he is the sort of player I want to see when he's on it.
I also think that being at fullback all your mistakes are there for all to see, but you don't see the other parts to his play its often been his cut out passes that have led to tries like the last one at Catalans.
There are certain players that can give you the 1%s that can win a game but the team shifts to accommodate them like Hurrell at Saints, Field at Wigan (who is a faster Dufty but can't pass). I think that the right edge defence needs sorting before anything else. I see Thewlis will be the future at fullback but another season on the wing will give him confidence and give him chance to mature a bit more physically will do him the world of good before people slaughter him for a dropped ball.

Anyone would think that behind their sneering is a little flicker of fear.

Quote ="karetaker"James Graham on Sam Burgess appointment. https://twitter.com/davekell13/status/1 ... 35680?s=61'" I’d feel a lot better after hearing that as Wire fan, Graham tells it like it is.

Quote ="karetaker"James Graham on Sam Burgess appointment. https://twitter.com/davekell13/status/1 ... 35680?s=61'" I’d feel a lot better after hearing that as Wire fan, Graham tells it like it is.

He lost the ball vs Catalans, they broke away, and he didn't bother chasing back. He was the last player back in the defensive line. He just threw his toys out of the pram and couldn't be bothered.

im with you on this one.

The guy is a born winner. The very least we should be doing is giving him a chance and all getting behind him.

People keep saying 'born winner' but what did he, or his teams win across his career?

that's a pretty narrow minded view when looking at a RL player to be honest.

Its the will to win and the drive to be the best.

It's not a medal count... he went to the NRL as a kid, won plenty of accolades... more than any other British player.

he hasn't won the challenge cup though... i will give you that one.. or the world cup... actually yea your right...what a loser