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| Peet does seem to have let a bit of success go to his plasticine head.
Wigan have been quite successful this year on the back of some inspired performances by two Australian imports. They won the cup fair and square, albeit Huddersfield should have put the game to bed before Wigan got a sniff of a comeback.
They're doing well but if he is already trading in the 'humble lad from my hometown' persona for the more traditional 'we are Wigan, look how mighty we are' I can see his popularity outside of the town falling quite quickly.
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| I don’t have a problem with any gloating from Wigan fans on our low period up to 2009, and can’t argue with any criticism of our recent NRL recruitment. However, it’s a bit silly slating the academy which has actually produced a decent number of products for us since the TS era. Admittedly not in the numbers of Saints, Leeds or Wigan, but they were blessed with lots more local talent (remember RL clubs weren’t as abundant in our ‘split’ town) and they had seen more recent success which meant they were more popular clubs with better structures in place.
I think we can be pretty happy with how we’ve progressed since our resurrection as a big club. In the England squad at the end of last season we had four Warrington-born players, Not bad when you consider that 20 years ago we were almost relegated with crowds of 3000 seen as a normal thing.
As for Peet, that’s incredibly childish. He’s right about the strength of his academy, it’s just a shame his club keeps them out by signing so many players from external sources. Like any other RL club?
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| You have signed a cracking young player. Assuming he does kick on (and I’m sure he will) don’t expect him to be around for too long when the NRL comes calling.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"And their best players this year, the home grown talent of jail field and bevan french'"
Hey, it’s my job to ask the questions so pack it in!
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| Perhaps the development of our youngsters has been affected by the club/coach mentality of trying to buy success instead of introducing & integrating the kids into the first team like Powell is doing. Getting into the first team for youngsters has generally depended on coaches having no other players to choose from. Perhaps we are missing a development stage somewhere between the youth system & first team standard.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Hey, it’s my job to ask the questions so pack it in!'"
wasn't really a question, i saw it more as soliloquy
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"wasn't really a question, i saw it more as soliloquy'"
I thought I'd spotted Gyles Brandreth in the South Stand, apparently it wasn't a look a like
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| Quote ="ninearches"Perhaps the development of our youngsters has been affected by the club/coach mentality of trying to buy success instead of introducing & integrating the kids into the first team like Powell is doing. Getting into the first team for youngsters has generally depended on coaches having no other players to choose from. Perhaps we are missing a development stage somewhere between the youth system & first team standard.'"
You know, I’m going to give some credit to Steve Price here. When KissKamOut TM (trademark Dallas) recruited Price, he said that our new coach wanted to change the structures behind the scenes to make the transition from academy to first team more like the NRL system. I’m not sure exactly what he changed, but it seems to have made a big difference considering our young players haven’t looked out of place on debut compared to days of old. Of course we then brought in the likes of Anderson which no doubt helped.
It’s interesting to see that Price is doing a similar role in Aus now and seems to be quite highly regarded. Maybe this is where his strength lies, and maybe he will leave an unseen legacy under the surface at Warrington.
He didn’t pay me to write this BTW…
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| Quote ="easyWire"You know, I’m going to give some credit to Steve Price here. When KissKamOut TM (trademark Dallas) recruited Price, he said that our new coach wanted to change the structures behind the scenes to make the transition from academy to first team more like the NRL system. I’m not sure exactly what he changed, but it seems to have made a big difference considering our young players haven’t looked out of place on debut compared to days of old. Of course we then brought in the likes of Anderson which no doubt helped.
It’s interesting to see that Price is doing a similar role in Aus now and seems to be quite highly regarded. Maybe this is where his strength lies, and maybe he will leave an unseen legacy under the surface at Warrington.
He didn’t pay me to write this BTW…'"
What you say stacks up fare, until match day, where that process ideal falls down, Price would never bring them on from the sub bench!
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| What always makes me laugh about the debate about young players on here is that it is the same every year.
You could go back 20 years and hear about how Steve Anderson was doing great things behind the scenes with our youth system and how DVDV had set up the scholarship with William Beamont and how it would bear fruit over the next few years.
There's always some story about how England Academy has more Warrington players than Wigan or Saints or whatever and what a great generation we have got coming through.
Then no superstars come through and we get told that actually those players had the talent, it was just that they didn't get their chance in the first team. And yet we've had lots of rank average home grown players come through and play 50 odd first team games before being moved on and spending the rest of their careers at lower SL teams or lower leagues. And none of the supposed top talents who weren't getting a chance with us ever seem to get picked up by other SL clubs and given a chance there.
The explanation is invariably "poor coaching" where these players were 'ruined' by Cullen / TS / Price. Well Powell seemed to do OK in terms of developing players in the first team at Leeds over 2001 to 2003 so that argument is going to be harder to use going forwards.
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| Can someone inform Mr.Peet our scholarship beat saints last night to make it 5 wins from 6.
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| good response from powelly in his presser today
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Do you include KPP in that assessment?
I know that you signed him from London Academy, but I thought he also played for Wigan Academy too?
Massive future in the game but NRL bound by all accounts'"
Nicholson looks and acts like a captain. Makes good yardage and has good hands.
If I had choice of KPP or Nicholson I'd go with Nicholson
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"What always makes me laugh about the debate about young players on here is that it is the same every year.
You could go back 20 years and hear about how Steve Anderson was doing great things behind the scenes with our youth system and how DVDV had set up the scholarship with William Beamont and how it would bear fruit over the next few years.
There's always some story about how England Academy has more Warrington players than Wigan or Saints or whatever and what a great generation we have got coming through.
Then no superstars come through and we get told that actually those players had the talent, it was just that they didn't get their chance in the first team. And yet we've had lots of rank average home grown players come through and play 50 odd first team games before being moved on and spending the rest of their careers at lower SL teams or lower leagues. And none of the supposed top talents who weren't getting a chance with us ever seem to get picked up by other SL clubs and given a chance there.
The explanation is invariably "poor coaching" where these players were 'ruined' by Cullen / TS / Price. Well Powell seemed to do OK in terms of developing players in the first team at Leeds over 2001 to 2003 so that argument is going to be harder to use going forwards.'"
Boo, give over. We are going places
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"What always makes me laugh about the debate about young players on here is that it is the same every year.
You could go back 20 years and hear about how Steve Anderson was doing great things behind the scenes with our youth system and how DVDV had set up the scholarship with William Beamont and how it would bear fruit over the next few years.
There's always some story about how England Academy has more Warrington players than Wigan or Saints or whatever and what a great generation we have got coming through.
Then no superstars come through and we get told that actually those players had the talent, it was just that they didn't get their chance in the first team. And yet we've had lots of rank average home grown players come through and play 50 odd first team games before being moved on and spending the rest of their careers at lower SL teams or lower leagues. And none of the supposed top talents who weren't getting a chance with us ever seem to get picked up by other SL clubs and given a chance there.
The explanation is invariably "poor coaching" where these players were 'ruined' by Cullen / TS / Price. Well Powell seemed to do OK in terms of developing players in the first team at Leeds over 2001 to 2003 so that argument is going to be harder to use going forwards.'"
Has Saddened hacked into your RL Fans account?
Change your password immediately.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"wasn't really a question, i saw it more as soliloquy'"
I think it was rhetorical, but a question none the less. ([size=50not that I’m questioning any moderator’s decision[/size Obviously.
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| What incredibly disappointing news to read. He is a future star make no mistake about it. Fair play to Wire for snatching him, he isn't like the usual dross we send packing to Warrington with a smirk. He genuinely has the world at his feet. Hope he fails now though, naturally.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"What always makes me laugh about the debate about young players on here is that it is the same every year.
You could go back 20 years and hear about how Steve Anderson was doing great things behind the scenes with our youth system and how DVDV had set up the scholarship with William Beamont and how it would bear fruit over the next few years.
There's always some story about how England Academy has more Warrington players than Wigan or Saints or whatever and what a great generation we have got coming through.
Then no superstars come through and we get told that actually those players had the talent, it was just that they didn't get their chance in the first team. And yet we've had lots of rank average home grown players come through and play 50 odd first team games before being moved on and spending the rest of their careers at lower SL teams or lower leagues. And none of the supposed top talents who weren't getting a chance with us ever seem to get picked up by other SL clubs and given a chance there.
The explanation is invariably "poor coaching" where these players were 'ruined' by Cullen / TS / Price. Well Powell seemed to do OK in terms of developing players in the first team at Leeds over 2001 to 2003 so that argument is going to be harder to use going forwards.'"
Not so sure things will be the same going forward though. As the old saying goes: ‘Don't expect different results by doing the same thing over and over again’… I think we’re under no illusions that we are NOT doing the same thing this time around. That doesn’t mean there’s proof it’s going to pay dividends, but it’s certainly not the same set of ingredients as in the previous two decades.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"When you’re behind a beaten pack you fail at almost every level through fatigue.
Can you honestly point out a single player in our team that had played better than any time of their career this season? =#FF0040Even Wrench and Thewlis have been way off the stand out mom performances of last season.'"
Not from what I've seen.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I thought I'd spotted Gyles Brandreth in the South Stand, apparently it wasn't a look a like'"
May I offer some well merited contrafibularities on your post.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"May I offer some well merited contrafibularities on your post.'"
Now now Blackadder.
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| SAUSAGE????
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"SAUSAGE????'"
A magnificent octopus of a reply
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