I was pleased with the effort both depleted teams put in tonight ,ok Saints won again but it was an enjoyable game & highlighted what must be a trait throughout the St Helens club. While we were still try trying to go up the middle against their "amazingly fast, if dodgy, line speed" ,which quickly bogged our attack down ,Saints gave us the runaround with their attack by shipping the ball to the backs to go round our defence. We did much better when we could spread the ball & create some broken play. But Saints have been doing a number with their backs on most teams this year & that is why they are 12 points clear at the top.
Our biggest concern should be keeping second place if we fancy a trip to Old Trafford & let the CC final take care of itself.

Unarguable= undoubtedly. Arguably= just may be.

The best team in the league isn’t decided until the 12th October 2019

Youre kidding me right?...well half. He played well tonight...but his dumb daft niggle penalties still remain and cost us.

Livett did...he made 3 eye catching runs...and then knocked on, on all three of them!!!

To say Livett is frustrating is an understatement.No doubting he’d played well but as Duckie said 3 breaks with 3 brain farts.Needs go back to how to keep the ball school.

you are joke some of you on here !! always knocking someone down, he played with FIRE and passion which has lacked for months in this team. Ok might of made a few errors but so did every other player on that pitch. Played under 5 games for wire and your here again. Give the kid a break, he is one that's had his confidence ripped out over the last few months along with a few others and your still here doing the same, thankgod they don't read this drivel on these sites.

As I state again, thankgod the kids don't read the drivel on here from you lot.

I would have Livett at saints in a heart beat. Hes a rough diamond and just look how we have polished Lees and Ashworth. I think Livett would benefit from our coaching set up

Did alright. Some good performances some poor ones.

I thought Livett did well, was up for it and tried a few things some senior players haven’t bothered to do all season. Murdoch-Masilla, Akouala and even Tasi put in some good minutes. Ratchford was class I thought.

Hill was up to his England standards last night for once.

In the halves, Smith was good first half but disappeared second half (probably lack of game time this season that). The young lad Dean had a very tough night but he’ll learn a lot from that.

Westwood was absolutely abysmal, I wouldn’t play him again. Genuinely terrible!

We’re not going to loan him to you for two months.

Just because he had a decent game doesn’t free him from criticism like any other player.Like Saddened said Chris Hill gave two penalties away and what happened?Saints scored.You can’t be giving balls away to any side let alone Saints as they’ll rip you apart and for those babbling on about us having half the team out well so did Saints and like some on here have already said they didn’t get out of second gear.In fact it’s quite sad for rest of sl how far ahead they are.

Totally agree, just needs to the right coaching and he will be a great player

Exactly, rather than looking at the obvious flaws given the lack of experience we had out there and the squad announced, we had written off the game as a result already. Sticking to a more optimistic view on things, I thought we did well and like I’ve said it was very spirited across the whole of the team. Livett just stood out to me like he genuinely had a point to prove and showed a lot of willing...

How Hill can be criticised after the stint he put in is beyond me. Yes there were penalties but by that time he was running on empty. Livett showed creativity which we have totally lacked in the 2nd row all season, I would stick with him. Matt Davis is a machine and would be in ahead of J Clark in my team selection.

If the rest of the pack was working properly/effectively matt davis would be a handy little wild card of a mobile player. Other than being a bit too small he's 1 of a few coming out of this season with credit.

He never takes a backward step and is very tenacious defensively. He’s gone under the radar as a signing and improved throughout the season. Very handy that he can play at 9 too...

At least Livett made breaks which have been hard to come by of late. We had nothing to lose last night as we had been written off when the squad came out. I dont blame Harvey for trying things...if the ball he tried to give Ratch had come off in the second half it would of been offload of the season......think we need to give him a break!!

On Hill, great effort, great minutes. However what cant be ignored is his penalties hes conceding leading to the opposition scoring. Its absolutely killing us........

Game as a whole. I enjoyed considering i was thinking of jibbing it off last minute. Young lads did well (Johnson not so much for me). Riley Dean showed up well, people bagging him on social media for kicking out on the full? Least he tried stuff. Wasnt bothered about taking the line on, and put himself about a bit for a lad 7 stone dripping wet! He has a lot of potential....CC final spot? Maybe its come too early, but i think that Price has ran out of patience with Patton, so you could see a surprise.

Thought Smith did ok, going to take a few games to learn his runners, but thought he looked ok with ball in hand, distributed well. Think he could be good for us for the rest of the season.

Drugs test for Tasi? Didnt know he had hits like that in him?!!

I can also see Riley Dean getting a game at Wembley above Patton. Also Benny Westwood will be there if Jack Hughes is not fit.

I thought that the team played with more freedom last night and as a result it was good to watch. I wonder if that freedom came from having so many new faces and hence less reliance upon set plays.

What was it with Tasi last night. First decent game all season and for the first time looked like a SL prop. Where has that been all year?

Launching himself at peoples legs, had he played like that before, he'd still be at saints

I enjoyed the game. Big effort by both teams and a good game to watch. Too many errors by Wire. Plenty effort and honourable mentions to Tasi Davis and Ratchford. Was a shame you lost Walker early doors, he was looking lively
Difficult to read much into last nights game. Well done to Saints who were the better team and time for Warrington to stand back and regroup. Form a bit worrying for Wire but you're still in the mix for everything and come the big games no team will be relishing playing you.
PS See you all at Wembley...…...Out of interest will any of you be stopping for our game??

I shall. I don't mind watching the odd Widnes game, the one against Toulouse on Saturday looks interesting.

Get yerself down there. Should be a good game if we decide to turn up!
Unfortunately I won't be there tomorrow. My niece chose a bad day to get married!!

on the walker injury, did anyone else hear the almighty crack or smack/impact noise as he went down?

i genuinely hoped that wasn't his achilles or his knee ligaments we heard snapping.