They are dead rubbers for the teams he pointed out....
Anyways.....more chance of Ken Dodd than Mitch!

And that is what bothers me,if he is not going to figure again this season why did we not just let him go,pretty sure he said he only wanted one season over here and we have not heard of any extension.

I don't want to belittle Hull's two results in the run up to Wembley - a wins a win. But whilst Widnes and Catalan may well be current top eight sides, neither are playing with top eight form. Widnes had lost 13 and won only 4 since we beat them in Round 7, and Catalan had 1 win (against Widnes) in their last 7 before having their tummies tickled at your place. Take away their impressive starts to the season and both teams would probably be fighting it out in the qualifiers .

I just hope that by the final hooter on Saturday the better team has won rather than being due to a refereeing decision, lucky bounce of the ball or injury (unless of course we win due to a referee decision or lucky bounce - I'd take that

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Ideally id like our team to look like this:

Ratch

Penny
Evans
Atkins
Russell

Gids
Sandow

Hill
Clark
Sims
Currie
Hughes
Westerman

Dwyer
Westwood
Bailey
G. King

18th man - Cox/Dodds (If fit)

Yep and that's mine as well

Not ideal to change now and Toby was more comfortable against Cas than he was previously.
Probably had some nerves in the first couple, trying desperately not to make errors and trying too hard to impress.

The only change for me if enforced is Ratchford to loose, Penny on wing, Russell FB.

As you point out, if it is imperative to finish top there are no dead rubbers ,but at least, as it stands, we are guaranteed top 4. If finishing top is the goal then i doubt Dodds will play again for the Wire this season.

Does anyone know when the team will be announced? In a "normal" match it would be 2.00 pm Thursday.

Never in a month of Sundays would Ratchford be put at loose. Westwood would start and play as a 3rd prop just like we always used to. Or alternately Currie go into 13 and westwood at 2nd row. Currie has a pair of hands on him like Westerman does so could make a better fit. The problem is I doubt Westwood could put in an effective 80 minutes in the back row like Currie, Hughes and Westerman can. He's an impact prop off the bench now. Sneyd would have a field day with Russell at full back. His positioning is woeful, couple that with the fact he cant catch or pass. you may as well give them the cup now.

Westwood may well start loose but he's only going to be spelled and used as a prop.
Westerman had good hands and is used like a stand off as is Currie.
Ratchford will almost certainly feature at loose if Westerman misses out.
Penny hasn't been 18th man for the last 2 weeks for nothing. Dropped on disciplinary not form.

As for Snyde....he isn't the threat that steers the pack, it's Danny Houghton.

One of your two before wembley was against wakey who were hammered the following week by widnes so I reckon our game was probably a bit more challenging. catalans were awful on the night but taking on their pack is never a pushover so I'm happy with those 2 games where we didn;t pick up any injuries which is the most important bit for me

I can understand the calls for Penny to come back in to the side, but I'm not sure how comfortable I am in him coming in 'cold' so to speak. Russell & Evans to continue for me, don't see the sense in making structural changes or bringing back players who aren't match ready at this point.

I'd be very surprised if TS plays anything other than side that faced castleford

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Don't see the point in you bringing Penny back in on such a narrow pitch.

Well that logic would mean there's no reason to play him ever Wembley is Obe yard narrower than the hj

think this Wembley pitch being this big or this narrow is urban myth, its not much different to most pitches maybe a bit bigger but nowt drastic, its the occasion what saps the energy imo

Your dead on here buddy, the stadium makes the pitch look huge. Leeds suffered the pressures of not winning there although they had a title winning team the occasion always got to them. Those that cope with this will always win, on that front one might say Warrington have the edge after winning three recently, but not many in this squad can say that!

I am looking forward to a great game with two very evenly matched teams

The more Hull talk about never winning at Wembley the less likely they are to win it. Like us with the GF.

I understood that Wembley width was either 67 or 68m - the maximum allowed and the length was also at maximum or within 1-2 meters allowed.
I'd love to see Penney on that I suspect TS may have other ideas

For me not playing penny if he is available must surely bring ts under the spotlight a little were going into a game where many believe we must play them out qide n tire the pack out it would be a hard task with two recognised wingers and two centres playing in the correct position. If it's forced by injury so be it but I don't feel that's the case with penny

he should be in, lots of little kicks turning talanoa around.

.....Saints at home springs to mind. Rather play them away.

Has this board turned into the Hull FC one over night or something? Place is plagued with them

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