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| Quote ="SEB"Did they? Yes McClennan has obviously got ability, over the short term anyway. But he inherited Tony's squad. How well did he do in future planning? The current Leeds team suggests not that well.
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Something you'll experience over the next few years is that you get to the top, you win, you're the best and you think it will last forever.
But then suddenly a few players will retire, not as many stars will be sighned and you'' be back down in 4th/5th wondering where it all went wrong with the replacment of smith.
The godl standard in the salary cap era is not maintaining a successful team. But managing to continually build a new one when the other one breaks apart. Because it will happen.
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| Who replaces Monas, i have an idea have a starting 19 made up of 18 from within the club and only one overseas spot to Cam Smith.
On a serious note i wouldn't mind Henderson at Catalans
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| Yes, we have a part ageing team, BUT, we also have kids for the future e.g. the Evans bros, O'Brien, Myler and Ratchford (still young), as well as 'established' players with youth on their side e.g. Cooper, Riley, Harrison etc.
Couple this with picking 'top name' overseas players which we can pick-up with salary-cap/quota allowances.
I'm not saying we're going to dominate, but I don't think we'll be 'slumping down to 4th/5th' anytime in the next half dozen seasons.
Smith is the key to all this. If he renews his 2013 contract....the sky's the limit
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| Quote ="marcel"Something you'll experience over the next few years is that you get to the top, you win, you're the best and you think it will last forever.
But then suddenly a few players will retire, not as many stars will be sighned and you'' be back down in 4th/5th wondering where it all went wrong with the replacment of smith.
The godl standard in the salary cap era is not maintaining a successful team. But managing to continually build a new one when the other one breaks apart. Because it will happen.'"
That's sport mate. You have to enjoy the good times because it definately won't last too long.
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| Hopefully Tony becomes the next Fergie, stays until the box fitters come and wins loads more silverware
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon" It wasn't that hard to win the Challenge Cup those years Warrington did it.'"
It was for all the other teams.....impossible in fact
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| I'd be happy with 4 more years, Smith to take us to 2015. By that time, we'll be a 'new team', he'll have seen us through that period and then him to move into another capacity handing the reigns to someone, right now I'm finding hard to come up with a suitable candidate other than the obvious like Bellamy.
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| Quote ="marcel"He generally seems to go to a club for 3/4 years, get's the job done and moves on.
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Not really. He left Hudds because he was offered a much better job with Leeds, with the potential to win trophies much better. He then left Leeds to meet his ambition to coach at international level. Hardly a track record for leaving clubs after a set period.
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| Quote ="JWP"I'd be happy with 4 more years, Smith to take us to 2015. By that time, we'll be a 'new team', he'll have seen us through that period and then him to move into another capacity handing the reigns to someone, right now I'm finding hard to come up with a suitable candidate other than the obvious like Bellamy.'"
This.
And whilst it's all down to imagination i would like to see maybe Morley or someone from this team to take the 2016 team. Been there and done it and would continue the Smith ethos and attitude.
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| Quote ="marcel"Something you'll experience over the next few years is that you get to the top, you win, you're the best and you think it will last forever.
But then suddenly a few players will retire, not as many stars will be sighned and you'' be back down in 4th/5th wondering where it all went wrong with the replacment of smith.
The godl standard in the salary cap era is not maintaining a successful team. But managing to continually build a new one when the other one breaks apart. Because it will happen.'"
Doesn't happen to everyone. Especially those that plan ahead.
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| he's ok i suppose.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"he's ok i suppose.'"
is he? can't say I've really noticed!
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| Quote ="mark_m"Doesn't happen to everyone. Especially those that plan ahead.'"
In a salary capped sport, it's inevitable. Why do you think so few teams retain the title in super league?
I think super league history shows that it does happen to everyone, in varying degrees.
You've got yourselves up there into that cycle of success so you'll see for yourselves what happens in the next 5 years.
Just don't be suprised if things seemingly go awry for a few years and other teams suddenly overtake you. Look at you and wigan over leeds and saints in the last 18months, and leeds saints have proven track records and aren't managed by mugs.
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| Quote ="marcel"In a salary capped sport, it's inevitable. Why do you think so few teams retain the title in super league?
I think super league history shows that it does happen to everyone, in varying degrees.
You've got yourselves up there into that cycle of success so you'll see for yourselves what happens in the next 5 years.
Just don't be suprised if things seemingly go awry for a few years and other teams suddenly overtake you. Look at you and wigan over leeds and saints in the last 18months, and leeds saints have proven track records and aren't managed by mugs.'"
you sound a barrell full of laughs..whats your blood group b negative
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| Quote ="SEB"Not really. He left Hudds because he was offered a much better job with Leeds, with the potential to win trophies much better. He then left Leeds to meet his ambition to coach at international level. Hardly a track record for leaving clubs after a set period.'"
He leaves to pursue new challenges. He's a good coach so once he's acheived his goals at one club offers come in from elsewhere and he picks the ones he desires.
I'm not sure what there is left for him to acheive besides some form of role at the rfl where he can work to revolutionise the playing standards over here as a whole and not just at one club.
But if you think he's gonna be here for years and years and years constantly achieving success you're in cloud cuckoo land.
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| Quote ="marcel"But if you think he's gonna be here for years and years and years constantly achieving success you're in cloud cuckoo land.'"
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"you sound a barrell full of laughs..whats your blood group b negative'"
No it's 'A realistic'.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"know him well do you?'"
Show me one coach in the modern game that has stayed at a club for the type of timeframes you are discussing?
The only one that comes to mind is wayne bennett and he had loads of dry spells inbetween successes. (guess he just didn't ''plan ahead'' huh? 0
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| Quote ="marcel"Show me one coach in the modern game that has stayed at a club for the type of timeframes you are discussing?
The only one that comes to mind is wayne bennett and he had loads of dry spells inbetween successes. (guess he just didn't ''plan ahead'' huh?
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"time will tell i suppose.'"
You will win every game and every trophy for the next 60 years.
Your fan base will grow to 6 trillion globally and smith will still be coaching from his hospital bed, kept alive wiuth advanced anti ageing and life support methods.
By the same resources, lee briers will still be kicking teams to death.
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| Quote ="marcel"You will win every game and every trophy for the next 60 years.
Your fan base will grow to 6 trillion globally and smith will still be coaching from his hospital bed, kept alive wiuth advanced anti ageing and life support methods.
By the same resources, lee briers will still be kicking teams to death.'"
ahhhh... you're one of these people that thinks they're dead funny .... carry on... it's impressive... you really got me with the 'coaching from his hospital bed' gag.
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| Quote ="marcel"You will win every game and every trophy for the next 60 years.
Your fan base will grow to 6 trillion globally and smith will still be coaching from his hospital bed, kept alive wiuth advanced anti ageing and life support methods.
By the same resources, lee briers will still be kicking teams to death.'"
oh dear
some people do insist on being 'in the know'...only to make themselves look childish and a little silly....its not pretty.
run along dear...only winners allowed on this forum...and supporters that have some class about them...like Huddersfield fans.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"ahhhh... you're one of these people that thinks they're dead funny .... carry on... it's impressive... you really got me with the 'coaching from his hospital bed' gag.'"
He/She is quite amusing actually and just makes the point that nothing lasts forever (don't I know it as a saints fan?)
Can't you just be happy you have the best team and the best coach in SL without getting involved in what might happen in years to come?
I know its your forum and its a thread about how good TS is (and he is) but I was hoping that after so many years in the wilderness that you would all just enjoy your deserved sucess without wanting to stick the boot in on others.
Hope you win the GF if we don't.
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| Some of Smith's best fist pumps last night.
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