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| Quote ="Dave T"I know a lot of Saints fans who have been fed up of Long at certain periods during the last however many year he has been there. Fortunately for them, they have been a good enough team to still get the wins, so the fans don't get on his back.
Every few games he will then come up with a good performance, maybe do something to win the game and gets the plaudits.
We have all seen games where Long passes behind players with the ball going straight into touch, loads of kicks out on the full, and games where he has simply been anonymous. In those games, they have others who step up and carry the team.
When Briers has an off day, nobody steps up and covers for him. We simply die on our ar$es, as has been seen in the last couple of games.'"
Indeed and agreed. That was my point. Briers has been a one man show for virtually all the time he has been at the club.
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| Quote ="Dave T"I know a lot of Saints fans who have been fed up of Long at certain periods during the last however many year he has been there. Fortunately for them, they have been a good enough team to still get the wins, so the fans don't get on his back.
Every few games he will then come up with a good performance, maybe do something to win the game and gets the plaudits.
We have all seen games where Long passes behind players with the ball going straight into touch, loads of kicks out on the full, and games where he has simply been anonymous. In those games, they have others who step up and carry the team.
When Briers has an off day, nobody steps up and covers for him. We simply die on our ar$es, as has been seen in the last couple of games.'"
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| Quote ="Wedge>Anderson"No that quote is actually trying to make the best of our situation at the moment which is completely different to mediocrity'"
Fair enough.
Quote ="Wedge>Anderson"Secondly we are actually agreeing. Briers Is the best we have at the moment and ultimately we do have to replace him. But that’s no easy task. It would be interesting to see who you suggest we replace him with? Myler - would he leave Salford? Tomkins - wouldn’t leave his boyhood Wigan. Eastmond - allegedly similar attitude to Briers and would Saints let him go? As I have mentioned several times the lack of quality half backs is evident especially British ones….'"
To be honest I'd really like to see Myler. He young and from what I've seen a really good player and with some of the big names and experience we have I think he could be brilliant. I hope he could be tempted from Salford, I feel we've a lot more to offer but of course, it's all opinion!
Not so keen on Tomkins and now you've mentioned that about Eastmond I'm not so keen on him either. Plus he's getting a nice taste of what it'll be like to be Long's replacement and I don't think we'd tempt him from Saints. He's got a very promising career with almost guarenteed trophies ahead of him at that club.
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| Quote ="Purplehaze"Rugby chick:
Who would you play at 6 and 7 on Friday at Bradford? Also, I want to know who Wedge>Anderson would play there as well...
For the record I would pick Bridge and Briers, with Monas at 9 if he has to be anywhere near the pitch given his complete lack of confidence at the moment.
[size=75This is all presuming we haven't signed Lockyer, Marshall, Long >insert a good half back here< before friday
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Bridge and Briers all day. You can tell monas heart isn't in this club and wants out, so let him go! I've had enough of him after i expected so much and defended him saying the guy needs time etc. He has done nothing for us and he should be out of the door way before lee briers.
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Ah, well glad thats that settled then.
I've been saying for two years we need to find a replacement. I was laughed at then.'"
Believe me I've been saying it for longer
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Who would you play at 6 and 7 on Friday at Bradford? Also, I want to know who Wedge>Anderson would play there as well...'"
As I've said on a previous post, I didn't mean get rid of Briers tomorrow. We are stuck for the remainder of the season until we can get rid and replace players. I would [idefinately[/i leave Monas out, I think he does us more harm than good in the halves. I'm fairly happy with Bridge, after being out so long he deserves the opportunity and Briers we don't really have a choice.
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"Believe me I've been saying it for longer
As I've said on a previous post, I didn't mean get rid of Briers tomorrow. We are stuck for the remainder of the season until we can get rid and replace players. I would [idefinately[/i leave Monas out, I think he does us more harm than good in the halves. I'm fairly happy with Bridge, after being out so long he deserves the opportunity and Briers we don't really have a choice.'"
We're in agreement again rugbychick. This could be the start of a beautiful friendship....
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Well we all know we cant win anything without him.
How we beat Featherstone in the cup is beyond me, and Lee Wasnt [ueven[/u born then!'" We beat featherstone in the cup :because we had players who perform 100% for the club for WINNING money, No Win not much pay.
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| so sick of hearing briers is the bad egg of warrington, he's the only one who's vocal on the pitch, shows a bit of imagination, not scared to try things, (even if they dont work out sometimes), fact is when he wins us a game (drop goal v leeds in playoffs), he's a saint, when we lose a match, the first thing you here from half of our half head fans is, (we need to get rid of that briers) then week after same people are saying we miss briers,
lee briers doesnt deserve half of the crap he gets on this forum.
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| Quote ="stringers_wolves"so sick of hearing briers is the bad egg of warrington, he's the only one who's vocal on the pitch, shows a bit of imagination, not scared to try things, (even if they dont work out sometimes), fact is when he wins us a game (drop goal v leeds in playoffs), he's a saint, when we lose a match, the first thing you here from half of our half head fans is, (we need to get rid of that briers) then week after same people are saying we miss briers,
lee briers doesnt deserve half of the crap he gets on this forum.'"
I'll drink to that my good fellow
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| Briers has given a lot to the club but I worry that he thinks he IS the club. That is until Smith came along of course. I don't hold with rumours about what he does and doesn't do outside of the games. What I did see yesterday though was some suited players watching the match (Riley, Cooper, Vinnie) and Briers with his jacket and tie discarded. He looked unprofessional.So I guess the guy just doesn't help himself.
As many of you have suggested he is the best we have right now - despite the fact that he is inconsistent and has a poor kicking game. Sadly the players are programmed to play to his style.
I genuinely felt sorry for Monas on Monday. He was devastated after the game. He may not be running the game all that well, and yes he has been disappointing, but until players start running onto the ball, or getting up there with him, he will continue to look an idiot. Harrison is one player who hangs back and runs onto his passes - and he made some good yards and half breaks.
Regardless of who you play where, we have to play wiser. Possession is most definately the key. Therefore the kicking game is essential. Neither Briers nor Monas are completing well placed kicks, no wonder Rau and Hicks had a pop on the line.
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| Michael Monaghan is a good traditional irish name
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| i actually felt sorry for monas meself yesterday, i know he was crap, but can just tell that he has got the class but not bein able to use it with our current shower, i actually thought penny deserved mn of match yesterday, looked confident, went inside looking for the ball and the thing that caught my eye the most was the fact that he was following quite a lot of drives up waiting for the offload, (classics saints play), unfortunately he didnt get an offload
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| Quote ="stringers_wolves"i actually felt sorry for monas meself yesterday, i know he was crap, but can just tell that he has got the class but not bein able to use it with our current shower, i actually thought penny deserved mn of match yesterday, looked confident, went inside looking for the ball and the thing that caught my eye the most was the fact that he was following quite a lot of drives up waiting for the offload, (classics saints play), unfortunately he didnt get an offload'"
Monas has no class. He is probably the worst 7 in Superleague ATM.
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Quote ="stringers_wolves"i actually felt sorry for monas meself yesterday, i know he was crap, but can just tell that he has got the class but not bein able to use it with our current shower, i actually thought penny deserved mn of match yesterday, looked confident, went inside looking for the ball and the thing that caught my eye the most was the fact that he was following quite a lot of drives up waiting for the offload, (classics saints play), unfortunately he didnt get an offload'" There are quite a few on here had lobotomies where did you have yours done ,maybe you could compare notes .
Here is a link for you
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Quote ="stringers_wolves"i actually felt sorry for monas meself yesterday, i know he was crap, but can just tell that he has got the class but not bein able to use it with our current shower, i actually thought penny deserved mn of match yesterday, looked confident, went inside looking for the ball and the thing that caught my eye the most was the fact that he was following quite a lot of drives up waiting for the offload, (classics saints play), unfortunately he didnt get an offload'" There are quite a few on here had lobotomies where did you have yours done ,maybe you could compare notes .
Here is a link for you
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| Quote ="Lefty"Monas has no class. He is probably the worst 7 in Superleague ATM.'"
thats because he's a number 9
playing scrum half he can't dictate play,set up moves etc,when he played outstanding for manly in the nrl semi final victory even though he played at scrum half he played the whole game like a hooker would doing most of his work from dummy half.
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| Quote ="the tache is back"thats because he's a number 9
playing scrum half he can't dictate play,set up moves etc,when he played outstanding for manly in the nrl semi final victory even though he played at scrum half he played the whole game like a hooker would doing most of his work from dummy half.'" But even when he did get an offload from the forwards, as he would get playing 9, his decision making is still so slow, and usually wrong.
I don't know what his best position is, but I'd like him to find it away from our club.
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| i have a sneaking suspicion that Richie Mathers isn't going to be our new full back. We have riley and hicks
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"i have a sneaking suspicion that Richie Mathers isn't going to be our new full back. We have riley and hicks
I think he'll play him at 6/7 watch this space.
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Are you TS?
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"i have a sneaking suspicion that Richie Mathers isn't going to be our new full back. We have riley and hicks
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Did you read my post?
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Did you read my post?'"
hence the wink
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"hence the wink
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Hey, heard anything about Briers going Halifax?
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Hey, heard anything about Briers going Halifax?
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No you mean Widnes and Barrow stopped bidding
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| Quote ="stringers_wolves"so sick of hearing briers is the bad egg of warrington, he's the only one who's vocal on the pitch, shows a bit of imagination, not scared to try things, (even if they dont work out sometimes), fact is when he wins us a game (drop goal v leeds in playoffs), he's a saint, when we lose a match, the first thing you here from half of our half head fans is, (we need to get rid of that briers) then week after same people are saying we miss briers,
lee briers doesnt deserve half of the crap he gets on this forum.'" agree with every word!!! well said, so many 2 faced fans on here!!
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| Quote ="alloywheel"agree with every word!!! well said, so many 2 faced fans on here!!'"
I wouldn't bother. Opinions on this forum will only prove to irritate you.
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