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| I dont and will never read that newspaper
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| Quote ="Wire_74"I dont and will never read that newspaper'"
God, another Kopite bore....We get it by now....Yes, its a $h!te paper and prints lots of cr@p....Now get over it...
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"God, another Kopite bore....We get it by now....Yes, its a $h!te paper and prints lots of cr@p....Now get over it...
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I'd quit while your ahead before you upset a few people.
Typical manc.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"I'd quit while your ahead before you upset a few people.
Typical manc.'"
Why??...We get your grievance with the Sun, and in the main agree with it, but typically you just go on about it....Stick to your policy of not reading the rag, but don't bore us with your reasons, which have been gone over on countless occasions..
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Why??...We get your grievance with the Sun, and in the main agree with it, but typically you just go on about it....Stick to your policy of not reading the rag, but don't bore us with your reasons, which have been gone over on countless occasions..'"
Pathetic. 96 people lost there lives due to no fault of their own and McKenzie blames the fans. I think people have a right to moan.
JFT 96.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Pathetic. 96 people lost there lives due to no fault of their own and McKenzie blames the fans. I think people have a right to moan.
JFT 96.'"
Its a shame you don't remember the 29th May in the same way....25th anniverary this year...39 died there....
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"God, another Kopite bore....We get it by now....Yes, its a $h!te paper and prints lots of cr@p....Now get over it...
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As a Liverpool fan I think I do understand what your post is trying to say, but on the other hand I would really appreciate it if you did not post things like “get over it" in relation to such a horrid and tragic incident that has more than likely affected a lot of people who visit this site.
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| I am aware of the Heysel stadium disaster.
I am not getting into a football debate on a rugby forum but there is nothing boring in what happened at Hillsborough, and the words 'get over it' and 'bore us' you should apologize.
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| Dear me. Now who is overreacting.
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| Quote ="Dyson"As a Liverpool fan I think I do understand what your post is trying to say, but on the other hand I would really appreciate it if you did not post things like “get over it" in relation to such a horrid and tragic incident that has more than likely affected a lot of people who visit this site.
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'Get over it' was, I agree, quite blase.....But my point is that sometimes there are times when you just have to let things go and live your life without bleating about the past, which you cannot change.
Yes, it was a tragedy, yes, the Sun is a nasty little rag....But, perhaps people don't what to hear the whinging about it all the time?
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| Quote ="Lefty"Dear me. Now who is overreacting.'"
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| Quote ="Lefty"Dear me. Now who is overreacting.'"
Theres a slight difference to calling somebody a 'coloured man' unintendingly as a joke than. 'Get over Hillsbourogh' and 'You are boring us'.
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| Keep digging.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"'Get over it' was, I agree, quite blase.....But my point is that sometimes there are times when you just have to let things go and live your life without bleating about the past, which you cannot change.
Yes, it was a tragedy, yes, the Sun is a nasty little rag....But, [iperhaps people don't what to hear the whinging about it all the time?[/i'"
Perhaps them people didn't lose there family members or there friends.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"'Get over it' was, I agree, quite blase.....But my point is that sometimes there are times when you just have to let things go and live your life without bleating about the past, which you cannot change.
Yes, it was a tragedy, yes, the Sun is a nasty little rag....But, perhaps people don't what to hear the whinging about it all the time?'"
Your post was uppsetting but I think I understand what you are trying to say, I would suggest just choosing words more carefully.
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| Quote ="Lefty"Keep digging.'"
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Theres a slight difference to calling somebody a 'coloured man' unintendingly as a joke than. 'Get over Hillsbourogh' and 'You are boring us'.'"
But it is boring now, the way you're banging on about it. I don't care about football, along with quite alot of people on here. I get it, the Hillsborough event was life changing for some, yes. Do we need to hear about how you lot don't buy the Sun 21 years on? No. Stop banging the drum, we heard the first time, we won't forget, and you have our sympathies. Can we move on now please?
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| Quote ="Timmy the Koi"But it is boring now, the way you're banging on about it. I don't care about football, along with quite alot of people on here. I get it, the Hillsborough event was life changing for some, yes. Do we need to hear about how you lot don't buy the Sun 21 years on? No. Stop banging the drum, we heard the first time, we won't forget, and you have our sympathies. Can we move on now please?'"
It wasn't intended as 'banging on about it'.
I'm not getting into it i just belive The Angry Pirates comments were unintended and he may have upset a few people.
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| I can understand how people now see this battle for justice as boring. Personally I never take my fight for justice public, I don’t ram my beliefs down people’s throats. I tend now to only state my case when inside Anfield or at an event organised by SOS.
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| Quote ="Dyson"I can understand how people now see this battle for justice as boring. Personally I never take my fight for justice public, I don’t ram my beliefs down people’s throats. I tend now to only state my case when inside Anfield or at an event organised by SOS.'"
Thats fine mate, and believe me when i say that i feel deeply for the losses that day, but glad you understand whats being said. Its a shame, because i think people can desensitize to the event when people persist in reminding people everytime the Sun is mentioned. Anyway guys, back on topic!
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| Quote ="Timmy the Koi"Thats fine mate, and believe me when i say that i feel deeply for the losses that day, but glad you understand whats being said. Its a shame, because i think people can desensitize to the event when people persist in reminding people everytime the Sun is mentioned. Anyway guys, back on topic!'"
Like i said i'm not getting into my views on it on a rugbyforum.
Back on topic;
If Richie does go ill be sad to see him go, Mathers has been a great signing for us despite what people say. You can't knock the lads effort, commitment and his enthusiasm he is a great professional. All the best to Richie.
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| The Sun put some really poor and offensive things in their paper. You could probably throw this charge at every paper. Look at the mirror with the torture stuff they did. Newspapers lie every single day.
The way people go on, you'd think it was the Sun who caused the Hillsborough tragedy. If this causes offence, tough, it is my opinion, and is not a troll to get a rise so is breaking no rules.
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| Quote ="The Taylor Report"The Inquiry which was held in Sheffield, began on 15th May 1989 and lasted thirty-one days. Taylor's findings as laid out in the Interim Report can be summarised as follows:
1. The immediate cause of the Disaster was the failure to cut off access to the central pens once gate C had been opened. This caused the overcrowding which led to the Disaster.
2. The central pens (3 and 4) were already overfull because there was no numerical control of entry nor any effective visual monitoring of crowd density.
3. Under the strain of overcrowding in Pen 3, a barrier collapsed, exacerbated by what Taylor referred to as the "sluggish reaction and response when the crush occurred". Lack of leadership and the small size and number of gates in the perimeter fencing hindered rescue attempts.
4. Gate C, an 'exit' gate between the inner concourse and the outside, was opened by the police because of the dangerous congestion at the turnstiles. There was no recognition, either by the club or the police, that unless fans arrived steadily over a long, drawn-out period the turnstiles would not be capable of coping with the large numbers involved. This was made worse by the fact that the operational order and police tactics did not consider the possibility of a large concentration of late arrivals. This situation, according to Taylor, was made worse by a drunken minority and the club's confused and inadequate signs and ticketing.
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right guys lets just let it lie, the only people this should concern are the close family and friends of the victims
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| Lets slag of the IRA shall we, thats a little closer to home. Life deal deals out a poor hand every so often. Im 26 and dont really remember the details of the warrington bombing so i dont hate the Irish or whatever. It's a grim situation but its gone. 9/11, now that was a tragedy but when i see it now i say "Woah" rather than the "OH MY GOD" at the time. Celebration and support is far more productive than bitterness and resentment. Carpe Diem.
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