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| Quote ="JWP"Nah, I think PY is right. Round 1 he did a fiver on Micky Higham first tryscorer which put him at £130, £125 of which was profit.'"
Ah, thats different. Anyway the argument at the start of the season was that making money from the bookies was easy. I always thought it wasnt and I think we can see that that is true.
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| i await and see lwf's extensive report on players getting injured in the warm up, that was another work in progress for this year.
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"wakey+14
widnes -6 these 2 defo and its a toss up between cas -8 or salford -6'"
right its
wakey +14
widnes -6
cats +8
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| ive put £5 on
castleford -6
wakefield +16
widnes -6
salford -8
return of £66.42
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Quote ="Paul Youane"Come on Latch the only reason you're in profit is a lucky first round 25-1 shot with Higham as first try scorer otherwise you'd be £100+ down. First try-scorer is little more than a lottery.
Where do you get your handicaps from? I've noticed a couple of times that yours are more favourable by a couple of points than anything quoted on odds comparison sites.'"
Your absolutely pathetic at times Paul, would it kill you to give people a little credit.
I won a fair bit on Higham start of year so yes your right but i since lost nearly all profit and was down to £20 because Wires71 commented "you will be in debt this week if you don't win", I'm keeping my record in my Sig for god sake you cant ask for fairer than that and if you had been watching it then you would have seen the overall profit going up and down pretty much constantly.
I shop around for my handicaps, using Totesport and Ladbrokes the most, Les Boyd and LiveWired always seem to quote Bet365 handicaps but as i have proved this week, Ladbrokes have Wire +2 instead of scratch, last week they had Wire -14 instead of -16 and i'm always going to take the easier handicap, Ian Millward found Wire -12 from somewhere against Celtic so it's all about shopping around.
JWP, your also right i won £125 on Higham but lost all the money in four weeks of losing bets and was down to £20 which means that my £110 profit that i'm now showing has been won from handicap bet's only as i stopped doing first try scorers in round 3 or 4 and as ive said above all my bets can be seen in this thread before the match has been played, i cant be any fairer than that sir.
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Quote ="Paul Youane"Come on Latch the only reason you're in profit is a lucky first round 25-1 shot with Higham as first try scorer otherwise you'd be £100+ down. First try-scorer is little more than a lottery.
Where do you get your handicaps from? I've noticed a couple of times that yours are more favourable by a couple of points than anything quoted on odds comparison sites.'"
Your absolutely pathetic at times Paul, would it kill you to give people a little credit.
I won a fair bit on Higham start of year so yes your right but i since lost nearly all profit and was down to £20 because Wires71 commented "you will be in debt this week if you don't win", I'm keeping my record in my Sig for god sake you cant ask for fairer than that and if you had been watching it then you would have seen the overall profit going up and down pretty much constantly.
I shop around for my handicaps, using Totesport and Ladbrokes the most, Les Boyd and LiveWired always seem to quote Bet365 handicaps but as i have proved this week, Ladbrokes have Wire +2 instead of scratch, last week they had Wire -14 instead of -16 and i'm always going to take the easier handicap, Ian Millward found Wire -12 from somewhere against Celtic so it's all about shopping around.
JWP, your also right i won £125 on Higham but lost all the money in four weeks of losing bets and was down to £20 which means that my £110 profit that i'm now showing has been won from handicap bet's only as i stopped doing first try scorers in round 3 or 4 and as ive said above all my bets can be seen in this thread before the match has been played, i cant be any fairer than that sir.
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| The +12 Celtic would have been 365 who come out weds morning,thats who Millward uses for his prices.
tbh,I only use supersoccer,stan james and betfred.Its very rare I use lads,hills,corals as they have no opinions of their own and lay marks to within 2 points of skybet and 365 who are normally the 1st out.
I prefer to bet on the lower leagues,where I find it easier to get an edge than superleague,where any idiot can produce ratings.Personally I find it easier to stick to certain teams if possible,eg Workington,Hunslet,Sheffeld and avoid teams like Warrington,Hull fc and Bradford who's form? does'nt stack upto my ratings. Skolars were a team to take on,but since forming an alleigance with Harlequins,reckon the starts for the next few matches,could be too big.
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| Anyway this weeks game will be close and shouldn't require much money, I'm dropping my bet £11 from last week and I'm going with £22 on Saints of Scratch @ 10/11.
Which is with Bet365 for Paul's benefit.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Anyway this weeks game will be close and shouldn't require much money, I'm dropping my bet £11 from last week and I'm going with £22 on Saints of Scratch @ 10/11.
Which is with Bet365 for Paul's benefit.'"
hope you lose
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"hope you lose'"
Well if Wire win it's happy days, if Wire lose then Ive got something to cushion the blow.
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Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Your absolutely pathetic at times Paul, would it kill you to give people a little credit.
I won a fair bit on Higham start of year so yes your right but i since lost nearly all profit and was down to £20 because Wires71 commented "you will be in debt this week if you don't win", I'm keeping my record in my Sig for god sake you cant ask for fairer than that and if you had been watching it then you would have seen the overall profit going up and down pretty much constantly.
I shop around for my handicaps, using Totesport and Ladbrokes the most, Les Boyd and LiveWired always seem to quote Bet365 handicaps but as i have proved this week, Ladbrokes have Wire +2 instead of scratch, last week they had Wire -14 instead of -16 and i'm always going to take the easier handicap, Ian Millward found Wire -12 from somewhere against Celtic so it's all about shopping around.
JWP, your also right i won £125 on Higham but lost all the money in four weeks of losing bets and was down to £20 which means that my £110 profit that i'm now showing has been won from handicap bet's only as i stopped doing first try scorers in round 3 or 4 and as ive said above all my bets can be seen in this thread before the match has been played, i cant be any fairer than that sir.
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Hey Latchy I've followed your betting with interest and always been quite supportive. I've also saluted you for putting your winnings in your sig.
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Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Your absolutely pathetic at times Paul, would it kill you to give people a little credit.
I won a fair bit on Higham start of year so yes your right but i since lost nearly all profit and was down to £20 because Wires71 commented "you will be in debt this week if you don't win", I'm keeping my record in my Sig for god sake you cant ask for fairer than that and if you had been watching it then you would have seen the overall profit going up and down pretty much constantly.
I shop around for my handicaps, using Totesport and Ladbrokes the most, Les Boyd and LiveWired always seem to quote Bet365 handicaps but as i have proved this week, Ladbrokes have Wire +2 instead of scratch, last week they had Wire -14 instead of -16 and i'm always going to take the easier handicap, Ian Millward found Wire -12 from somewhere against Celtic so it's all about shopping around.
JWP, your also right i won £125 on Higham but lost all the money in four weeks of losing bets and was down to £20 which means that my £110 profit that i'm now showing has been won from handicap bet's only as i stopped doing first try scorers in round 3 or 4 and as ive said above all my bets can be seen in this thread before the match has been played, i cant be any fairer than that sir.
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Hey Latchy I've followed your betting with interest and always been quite supportive. I've also saluted you for putting your winnings in your sig.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Hey Latchy I've followed your betting with interest and always been quite supportive. I've also saluted you for putting your winnings in your sig.'"
The post was aimed at Paul, i was only quoting you to show him that I'd lost all the Higham money, which he say's is the reason I'm in profit ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Well if Wire win it's happy days, if Wire lose then Ive got something to cushion the blow.'"
im sure there must be a game to wager your £22 on ..if you dont fancy the wire steer clear...dont take this as a telling off.its just i dont get this betting against your own team..
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"The post was aimed at Paul, i was only quoting you to show him that I'd lost all the Higham money, which he say's is the reason I'm in profit
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Without wishing to cause offence, I think, technically, PY is correct though as £125 was won through this bet with Higham, leaving a loss of £15 on handicap betting over all the rounds.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Without wishing to cause offence, I think, technically, PY is correct though as £125 was won through this bet with Higham, leaving a loss of £15 on handicap betting over all the rounds.'"
I made £125 profit from the Higam bet, lost £105 profit from the Higham bet leaving me with £20. I'm now £110 in profit so how has the Higham bet put me in profit. I understand that calling it quits after round 1 would have made me more profit than I'm now showing but the fact that Ive lost it and started to recoup the losses shows my handicap bet's have won me money.
All in all it's this simple, I started with £0 and currently have £110, my task was to bet on every Warrington match and show a profit at the end of the year.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"icon_confused.gif
I made £125 profit from the Higam bet, lost £105 profit from the Higham bet leaving me with £20. I'm now £110 in profit so how has the Higham bet put me in profit. I understand that calling it quits after round 1 would have made me more profit than I'm now showing but the fact that Ive lost it and started to recoup the losses shows my handicap bet's have won me money.
All in all it's this simple, I started with £0 and currently have £110, my task was to bet on every Warrington match and show a profit at the end of the year.'"
I dont doubt you have made money, so far, over the rounds. But your handicap bets over all the rounds have lost you money. It can be expressed like this (over all rounds)
Your winnings - your losses = profit.
(Higham Winnings + handicap winnings) = profit.
£125 + handicap winnings = £110
handicap winnings = £110-125
handicap winnings = £-15
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| R OK i see your point, if it wasn't for the Higham bet id be £-15 is what your saying.
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| If the injuries to us are true saints odds look very big.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"R OK i see your point, if it wasn't for the Higham bet id be £-15 is what your saying.'"
Yeah thats all's and it's true to say you are up £110 based on your betting all season up to now. Even PY cannot argue with that.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"R OK i see your point, if it wasn't for the Higham bet id be £-15 is what your saying.'"
have you had anymore successful first try scorer wins since the opening round?
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"which means that my £110 profit that i'm now showing has been won from handicap bet's only as i stopped doing first try scorers in round 3 or 4'"
Nope just the one winner in Round 1.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Yeah thats all's and it's true to say you are up £110 based on your betting all season up to now. Even PY cannot argue with that.'"
Don't argue that he is up over all however my point was in relation to Latch "belittling" Mark for relying upon a long odds bet to post a profit.
Perhaps even Latch can admit that he is doing the same with the Higham bet. If the bet on Higham hadn't come in he would be down £100+.
He's a funny one Latch, one minute he reckons he's my big buddy the next he's coming across all agressive.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Don't argue that he is up over all however my point was in relation to Latch "belittling" Mark for relying upon a long odds bet to post a profit.
Perhaps even Latch can admit that he is doing the same with the Higham bet. If the bet on Higham hadn't come in he would be down £100+.
He's a funny one Latch, one minute he reckons he's my big buddy the next he's coming across all agressive.'"
Surely he would be down by £15 based on the maths?
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| Quote ="Wires71"Surely he would be down by £15 based on the maths?'"
Yeah my mistake.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Catalans +8 for me this week.'" Only had 30 on it, so 50 on Saints -2 for me, would be more than happy to lose my money on this one.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Only had 30 on it, so 50 on Saints -2 for me, would be more than happy to lose my money on this one.'"
What if they win by one point?
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