You're funny when you get a bee in your bonnet about something RD. I keep reading you banging on about Ratchford being busted. Why do you think he is injured? Are you referring to the thigh pad he was wearing for the last few weeks?
That was gone last night, and I see no ill effects in his play to suggest that he either a) needs resting, or b) is injured.

I think TS is still struggling for bodies to rest anybody Duckie....i am sure some would have complained if he'd played promising youngsters instead.

Ratchford is not injured and had recovered from his corked thigh.

I've never seen Masoe show any aggression towards anyone, ever. He's a Saint. The 'punch' was a bizarre incident, but daft as it sounds I don't even think he intended to punch anyone. Greenwood was in his way to start with. I think his hand was trapped initially and the big WWE style raising of the hand was a result of freeing his hand, the rest was gravity/big man falling.

Just watching the game back.. I'm still shaking my head as to how that Roby try was given..
Our game will never be taken seriously if the video ref can't get it right..

Would you have given a knock on? No penalty for the challenge? Penalty try?

Masoe is a beast. An absolute beast.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone quite like him for size and strength (and runs both) and that includes Joe Vagana, Vila Matautia, Willie Mason etc.

Knock on as he lost control of the ball against Harrison's knee. And before you say Harrison can't use his knee.. He was trying to stop the ball being put down, not use them in a foul play type of way and the fact that Roby was so low he will always connect with the knee/leg area.
Lose control of the ball used to be a knock on unless there's a rule change I don't know about.

They love him again on the Saints after 6 months of slagging him ha ha

AS you say, he was trying to stop the ball being put down, and knocked the ball out. Roby recovered it and scored a try. There really was no other decision that could have been given.

For the record, Penny was about 2 yards offside at the play the ball before his interception try.

dont know what the final penalty count was, but it was 9-6 in our favour after 30mins.

We didn't get a single penalty after the team warning on 33mins.

You can't seriously suggest that Harrison purposely knocked the ball out with his shin, all he was doing was trying to stop Roby getting over the line, seeing as how Roby was practically on his knees what else was Harrison supposed to tackle him with? He didn't swing his boot or anything, he just put his leg in the way. Saying Harrisons tackle was illegal is like blaming Kevin Penny for having his foot underneath the ball for Burgess' no try the other week. Roby lost the ball in collision, it touched Harrison, ergo no try.

Best side won.
Ref was tosh for both sides, and spoiled what could have been a great 1st half, instead it was a Penalty fest. It should've been nipped in the bud, with a sinbinning. Infringements soon stop.


As a whole, I don't think we'd've won, if we stayed there all night. We simply are void of ideas. Our halves simply pass the ball. Nothing else. No ideas, creativity. Just meaningless distribution. Poor, really.

If we get to Wembley/have a decent end of season run in, I'll take it. A trophy would be a massive plus. After Cas, next week, any wins are a bonus.

Roll on new halves.

+1

I'm hoping that if we can't get Sandow that we don't make Wembley.
I can't face watching us lose to Sts there.

correct that 3 decisions the s have been given in tha last 3 weeks as regards to losing the ball..makes you wonder

Sheesh. You are the most pessimistic person on here.

Firstly we will get to Wembley, Leeds will beat Skints and we may well then beat them as we have beat them twice already this season.

those pillocks on sky and that includes that grade one tool cummings said there was nowt wrong with what masoe did..and the incident when atkins convinced himself he scored.carney said did he deliberatly gave the ball to the sts defenders..what bilge..

If Masoe really wanted to injure someone they'd be leaving the pitch for intensive care. The guy is a freak. I used to think Kevin Ward was a giant prop. But even Wardy would have his hands full stopping Masoe from hurting him if he were so inclined.

That I don't deny.
We beat a team that rested Sinfield and Burrow through much of the game and I think they were beat in 6 of the last 8 they played in inc and following us.

Us Leythers have got James Child at the Bulls on Sunday.

Look on the bright side, at least it isn't due to a last-minute Sean Long drop-goal any more.

It may as well have been....did you not see his reaction when they scored it? You'd have thought he scored it himself. I was half expecting him to run onto the pitch and take all the credit like a David May.

I think lefty has hit the proverbial on the head, our halves were appalling again. Simple as, full-stop,end-of, and I think we've all now concluded we won't progress until we've replaced one or both of our current HBs. Any thought that Myler was going to go out with a bang appears to have been answered with an anonymous display even by his light touch standards. Lord Lucan was on the ball more second half, so the arrival of a half-back (and I'd happily take any half-back just to see a change in personnel) is way, way overdue and can't come soon enough.

Elsewhere, business as usual, everyone did what I expected and no more, which depending on who you're thinking of is a good or a bad thing.

One final point re. Masoe, or whatever the puddings called. The bloke is a playground thug - aiming theatrical punches at half-backs might endear you to people who used to enjoy watching Roy Haggerty and Paul Forber doing their "stuff" but it doesn't make you an enforcer. Walmsley is twice the player, but doesn't play the fat panto villain card so well.

Enjoyable game to watch. Despite losing unluckily, Wire can beat anyone on their day.

That said, I think over a season you will come up short against the 'big 3'.

And what were those weird hand signals all about from Tony Smith just after St Helens scored their winning try????

so it's no longer the big 4...?
Were not biting chinny.