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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"C'mon Mark don't be stupid, if anybody is willing to put more than £50 on a rugby match this year then they've either got money to burn or are absolute stupid, we all know the unpredictability of this years league and that's the reason i'm cautious, if the handicap requires more money then more money will be put on as you have seen this week.
If i'd have taken the popular -16 against Celtic i would have lost but due to me taking -14 Ive won, that's how small this years margins are between winning and losing, so i'm hardly going to put £80 on.
Any numpty can do £1 football accumulators every week and the chance's are that over the year your going to get at least one win at good money, your asking me to bet the full £80 now a £110 but you only do £1 a week
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Come on Latch the only reason you're in profit is a lucky first round 25-1 shot with Higham as first try scorer otherwise you'd be £100+ down. First try-scorer is little more than a lottery.
Where do you get your handicaps from? I've noticed a couple of times that yours are more favourable by a couple of points than anything quoted on odds comparison sites.
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| Quote ="Mark"Why don't you have some proper stones and put the full £80 on? 20 to win 20 is a bit cautious don't you think? I won £142 and £245 off a £1 on footy accumulators last season, a pound a week is all I do. Go on Latchy..get it done.'"
Big ones like 8+ teams? won few last season always use betfair though, keep mine to around 5 teams three banks and two that look good.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Come on Latch the only reason you're in profit is a lucky first round 25-1 shot with Higham as first try scorer otherwise you'd be £100+ down. First try-scorer is little more than a lottery.
Where do you get your handicaps from? I've noticed a couple of times that yours are more favourable by a couple of points than anything quoted on odds comparison sites.'"
I thought LWF profit was from just on the game result?
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| Quote ="Wires71"I thought LWF profit was from just on the game result?'"
Nah, I think PY is right. Round 1 he did a fiver on Micky Higham first tryscorer which put him at £130, £125 of which was profit.
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| Quote ="JWP"Nah, I think PY is right. Round 1 he did a fiver on Micky Higham first tryscorer which put him at £130, £125 of which was profit.'"
Ah, thats different. Anyway the argument at the start of the season was that making money from the bookies was easy. I always thought it wasnt and I think we can see that that is true.
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| i await and see lwf's extensive report on players getting injured in the warm up, that was another work in progress for this year.
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"wakey+14
widnes -6 these 2 defo and its a toss up between cas -8 or salford -6'"
right its
wakey +14
widnes -6
cats +8
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| ive put £5 on
castleford -6
wakefield +16
widnes -6
salford -8
return of £66.42
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Quote ="Paul Youane"Come on Latch the only reason you're in profit is a lucky first round 25-1 shot with Higham as first try scorer otherwise you'd be £100+ down. First try-scorer is little more than a lottery.
Where do you get your handicaps from? I've noticed a couple of times that yours are more favourable by a couple of points than anything quoted on odds comparison sites.'"
Your absolutely pathetic at times Paul, would it kill you to give people a little credit.
I won a fair bit on Higham start of year so yes your right but i since lost nearly all profit and was down to £20 because Wires71 commented "you will be in debt this week if you don't win", I'm keeping my record in my Sig for god sake you cant ask for fairer than that and if you had been watching it then you would have seen the overall profit going up and down pretty much constantly.
I shop around for my handicaps, using Totesport and Ladbrokes the most, Les Boyd and LiveWired always seem to quote Bet365 handicaps but as i have proved this week, Ladbrokes have Wire +2 instead of scratch, last week they had Wire -14 instead of -16 and i'm always going to take the easier handicap, Ian Millward found Wire -12 from somewhere against Celtic so it's all about shopping around.
JWP, your also right i won £125 on Higham but lost all the money in four weeks of losing bets and was down to £20 which means that my £110 profit that i'm now showing has been won from handicap bet's only as i stopped doing first try scorers in round 3 or 4 and as ive said above all my bets can be seen in this thread before the match has been played, i cant be any fairer than that sir.
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Quote ="Paul Youane"Come on Latch the only reason you're in profit is a lucky first round 25-1 shot with Higham as first try scorer otherwise you'd be £100+ down. First try-scorer is little more than a lottery.
Where do you get your handicaps from? I've noticed a couple of times that yours are more favourable by a couple of points than anything quoted on odds comparison sites.'"
Your absolutely pathetic at times Paul, would it kill you to give people a little credit.
I won a fair bit on Higham start of year so yes your right but i since lost nearly all profit and was down to £20 because Wires71 commented "you will be in debt this week if you don't win", I'm keeping my record in my Sig for god sake you cant ask for fairer than that and if you had been watching it then you would have seen the overall profit going up and down pretty much constantly.
I shop around for my handicaps, using Totesport and Ladbrokes the most, Les Boyd and LiveWired always seem to quote Bet365 handicaps but as i have proved this week, Ladbrokes have Wire +2 instead of scratch, last week they had Wire -14 instead of -16 and i'm always going to take the easier handicap, Ian Millward found Wire -12 from somewhere against Celtic so it's all about shopping around.
JWP, your also right i won £125 on Higham but lost all the money in four weeks of losing bets and was down to £20 which means that my £110 profit that i'm now showing has been won from handicap bet's only as i stopped doing first try scorers in round 3 or 4 and as ive said above all my bets can be seen in this thread before the match has been played, i cant be any fairer than that sir.
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| The +12 Celtic would have been 365 who come out weds morning,thats who Millward uses for his prices.
tbh,I only use supersoccer,stan james and betfred.Its very rare I use lads,hills,corals as they have no opinions of their own and lay marks to within 2 points of skybet and 365 who are normally the 1st out.
I prefer to bet on the lower leagues,where I find it easier to get an edge than superleague,where any idiot can produce ratings.Personally I find it easier to stick to certain teams if possible,eg Workington,Hunslet,Sheffeld and avoid teams like Warrington,Hull fc and Bradford who's form? does'nt stack upto my ratings. Skolars were a team to take on,but since forming an alleigance with Harlequins,reckon the starts for the next few matches,could be too big.
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| Anyway this weeks game will be close and shouldn't require much money, I'm dropping my bet £11 from last week and I'm going with £22 on Saints of Scratch @ 10/11.
Which is with Bet365 for Paul's benefit.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Anyway this weeks game will be close and shouldn't require much money, I'm dropping my bet £11 from last week and I'm going with £22 on Saints of Scratch @ 10/11.
Which is with Bet365 for Paul's benefit.'"
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"hope you lose'"
Well if Wire win it's happy days, if Wire lose then Ive got something to cushion the blow.
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Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Your absolutely pathetic at times Paul, would it kill you to give people a little credit.
I won a fair bit on Higham start of year so yes your right but i since lost nearly all profit and was down to £20 because Wires71 commented "you will be in debt this week if you don't win", I'm keeping my record in my Sig for god sake you cant ask for fairer than that and if you had been watching it then you would have seen the overall profit going up and down pretty much constantly.
I shop around for my handicaps, using Totesport and Ladbrokes the most, Les Boyd and LiveWired always seem to quote Bet365 handicaps but as i have proved this week, Ladbrokes have Wire +2 instead of scratch, last week they had Wire -14 instead of -16 and i'm always going to take the easier handicap, Ian Millward found Wire -12 from somewhere against Celtic so it's all about shopping around.
JWP, your also right i won £125 on Higham but lost all the money in four weeks of losing bets and was down to £20 which means that my £110 profit that i'm now showing has been won from handicap bet's only as i stopped doing first try scorers in round 3 or 4 and as ive said above all my bets can be seen in this thread before the match has been played, i cant be any fairer than that sir.
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Hey Latchy I've followed your betting with interest and always been quite supportive. I've also saluted you for putting your winnings in your sig.
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Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Your absolutely pathetic at times Paul, would it kill you to give people a little credit.
I won a fair bit on Higham start of year so yes your right but i since lost nearly all profit and was down to £20 because Wires71 commented "you will be in debt this week if you don't win", I'm keeping my record in my Sig for god sake you cant ask for fairer than that and if you had been watching it then you would have seen the overall profit going up and down pretty much constantly.
I shop around for my handicaps, using Totesport and Ladbrokes the most, Les Boyd and LiveWired always seem to quote Bet365 handicaps but as i have proved this week, Ladbrokes have Wire +2 instead of scratch, last week they had Wire -14 instead of -16 and i'm always going to take the easier handicap, Ian Millward found Wire -12 from somewhere against Celtic so it's all about shopping around.
JWP, your also right i won £125 on Higham but lost all the money in four weeks of losing bets and was down to £20 which means that my £110 profit that i'm now showing has been won from handicap bet's only as i stopped doing first try scorers in round 3 or 4 and as ive said above all my bets can be seen in this thread before the match has been played, i cant be any fairer than that sir.
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Hey Latchy I've followed your betting with interest and always been quite supportive. I've also saluted you for putting your winnings in your sig.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Hey Latchy I've followed your betting with interest and always been quite supportive. I've also saluted you for putting your winnings in your sig.'"
The post was aimed at Paul, i was only quoting you to show him that I'd lost all the Higham money, which he say's is the reason I'm in profit
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Well if Wire win it's happy days, if Wire lose then Ive got something to cushion the blow.'"
im sure there must be a game to wager your £22 on ..if you dont fancy the wire steer clear...dont take this as a telling off.its just i dont get this betting against your own team..
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"The post was aimed at Paul, i was only quoting you to show him that I'd lost all the Higham money, which he say's is the reason I'm in profit
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Without wishing to cause offence, I think, technically, PY is correct though as £125 was won through this bet with Higham, leaving a loss of £15 on handicap betting over all the rounds.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Without wishing to cause offence, I think, technically, PY is correct though as £125 was won through this bet with Higham, leaving a loss of £15 on handicap betting over all the rounds.'"
I made £125 profit from the Higam bet, lost £105 profit from the Higham bet leaving me with £20. I'm now £110 in profit so how has the Higham bet put me in profit. I understand that calling it quits after round 1 would have made me more profit than I'm now showing but the fact that Ive lost it and started to recoup the losses shows my handicap bet's have won me money.
All in all it's this simple, I started with £0 and currently have £110, my task was to bet on every Warrington match and show a profit at the end of the year.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"icon_confused.gif
I made £125 profit from the Higam bet, lost £105 profit from the Higham bet leaving me with £20. I'm now £110 in profit so how has the Higham bet put me in profit. I understand that calling it quits after round 1 would have made me more profit than I'm now showing but the fact that Ive lost it and started to recoup the losses shows my handicap bet's have won me money.
All in all it's this simple, I started with £0 and currently have £110, my task was to bet on every Warrington match and show a profit at the end of the year.'"
I dont doubt you have made money, so far, over the rounds. But your handicap bets over all the rounds have lost you money. It can be expressed like this (over all rounds)
Your winnings - your losses = profit.
(Higham Winnings + handicap winnings) = profit.
£125 + handicap winnings = £110
handicap winnings = £110-125
handicap winnings = £-15
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| R OK i see your point, if it wasn't for the Higham bet id be £-15 is what your saying.
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| If the injuries to us are true saints odds look very big.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"R OK i see your point, if it wasn't for the Higham bet id be £-15 is what your saying.'"
Yeah thats all's and it's true to say you are up £110 based on your betting all season up to now. Even PY cannot argue with that.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"R OK i see your point, if it wasn't for the Higham bet id be £-15 is what your saying.'"
have you had anymore successful first try scorer wins since the opening round?
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