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| Vaughan can't get any more than 4 as that is what SKD got for pretty much the same thing.
Not that it's much consolation, but might be worth appealing it and saying Mata'utia said 'help us up bruv'.
It's crazy and pathetic, but I also understand why it's there. If a player was badly injured, moving them could be disastrous and the player never really knows, but the temptation to pull them up must be great, given he was just trying to run the clock down.
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| Absolute joke. WA9 would be howling in the streets if it was one of theirs.
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| With SKD the player was lying on his back. This one Sione is getting to his feet with a little ‘encouragement’.
There’s another one that did the rounds on twitter back in March, was a Catalans player and was worse than the SKD one, not picked up by the MRP - but think that’s down to incompetence rather than being any sort of precedence.
Time will tell, think it will be 4.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Absolute joke. WA9 would be howling in the streets if it was one of theirs.'"
Of course they would, the disciplinary panel is dead set against them remember.
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| Quote ="CW8"Of course they would, the disciplinary panel is dead set against them remember.'"
Sione Mata'utia got a red card and a 3 match ban for a similar incident don't forget. And he didn't physically move the player, just lifted his shirt. SKD got 4 I think for a similar one to Vaughan.
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| Good job Cullen is on the Disciplinary or it would’ve been 12
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Absolute joke. WA9 would be howling in the streets if it was one of theirs.'"
We've had our turn already, indeed it's a bit like pass the parcel as the player Mata'utia touched had himself been banned for the same thing.
So Vaughan just needs to make sure he's not the last player to be holding the parcel when the music stops on RL playing playing the world's stupidest version of pass the parcel.
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| The player is obviously not injured. He has gone to ground to waste a few seconds. Vaughan has given him a little tug to encourage him up. If he gets a ban for that is more proof that the world is mad. There is no chance of Vaughan doing any damage. A warning to Vaughan saying you shouldn't do that as the player could/might be injured (rather than wasting time with a minute to go) would suffice.
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| Matautia should cop a ban for his poor acting skills
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"We've had our turn already, indeed it's a bit like pass the parcel as the player Mata'utia touched had himself been banned for the same thing.
So Vaughan just needs to make sure he's not the last player to be holding the parcel when the music stops on RL playing playing the world's stupidest version of pass the parcel.'"
Would it not be better if players just stopped doing it? Whilst the bans seem daft, there is the possibility of an injured player being compromised by being moved by an opponent, so it needs to stay as a rule. The big punishments for Mata'utia and SKD were meant to be a deterrent rather than just a punishment and it hasn't worked.
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| They seem to be doing their best to put people of watching the game.
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| IF Vaughan gets a ban for that... then thats me done with this sport.
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| Appeal it and appeal it again
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"Appeal it and appeal it again'"
What’s the betting we cop a frivolous charge lol.
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| Run the video until the 80 is up and watch Matuatia sprinting to Mbyes' celebration under the sticks.... No injury there and I hope PVs rep shows that incident as evidence that it was purely time wasting and nothing else.
Maybe Pete might av a word with his bru to support his appeal.... But being a Saints player I very much doubt that..... Vaughan must appeal, its nothing like the others as he wasn't hurt.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"IF Vaughan gets a ban for that... then thats me done with this sport.'" im getting closer to giving up watching with every petty penalty and bans for sweet fa.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"IF Vaughan gets a ban for that... then thats me done with this sport.'"
Sionne Matatuia (SP) got 3 match ban last yr for similar pulling Levi up for faking an injury.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Sionne Matatuia (SP) got 3 match ban last yr for similar pulling Levi up for faking an injury.'"
Maybe the Disciplinary Committee when they are analysing each game to the "n" degree should impose bans on players who make miraculous recoveries after they have played the ball and were quite obviously wasting time by feigning an injury.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Sionne Matatuia (SP) got 3 match ban last yr for similar pulling Levi up for faking an injury.'"
But that was a bloke on the floor pretending to be injured. And nobody knows at the time if an injury is genuine or not, so that is a big no no. Vaughan grabbed a bloke who was already getting up of his own accord.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"But that was a bloke on the floor pretending to be injured. And nobody knows at the time if an injury is genuine or not, so that is a big no no. Vaughan grabbed a bloke who was already getting up of his own accord.'"
But was getting up slowly; Vaughan assumed it was time wasting but he didn’t know. It would hardly be the first injured player gets up gingerly. The circumstances are comparable, and to be fair to the MRP if we scream consistency at them, they are being consistent in this circumstance.
The reality is both instances were handled incredulously, but until we as fans stop pointing and laughing because “it’s those over the other side of the hills turn this time” the MRP will continue to do as they are doing; ruining the sport. Tribalism has let them create a situation where they have as much sway over a season as a ref does and that’s just insane.
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| The MRP is an absolute joke and we’ll chunner but we’ll stop short of blaming some sort of RFL wide conspiracy stopping us winning the One Peat.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"But that was a bloke on the floor pretending to be injured. And nobody knows at the time if an injury is genuine or not, so that is a big no no. Vaughan grabbed a bloke who was already getting up of his own accord.'"
I'm not sure what difference there is between a person laying down and being potentially injured and kneeling/getting up gingerly and potentially injured. You can get to your feet with an incredibly serious injury. Also, Vaughan moves Mata'utia, Mata'utia just lifted Levi's shirt in a 'get up' type gesture, so there's as much arguement for increasing it as there is reversing it.
It's a tough one as clearly there's nothing malicious in it from Vaughan and it does seem a daft thing to be banned for. But the harshness of the punishments for Mata'utia and SKD were to deter players from doing it and it clearly hasn't worked. Vaughan doesn't know whether Mata'utia is injured anymore than the previous incidents. Walmsley started getting up of his own accord twice after breaking his neck in almost the same spot if you remember. The onus is on the players not to touch the ball carrier once the tackle is complete. Just step away and let the referee sort it out. That removes the need for any debate about what an appropriate punishment is. Pulling him up should either result in a six again or a red card, neither is beneficial to his team.
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| Rugby league in this country is fast becoming a joke sport with a huge lack of talent both on & off the pitch, and the MRP are just accelerating it's return to the semi pro era.
It won't be long before we're even more of a "oh no, there's no amateur women's golf so we'd better screen some Super League" option on sky.
The game is a million miles away from the NRL, they're practically different sports.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"But was getting up slowly; Vaughan assumed it was time wasting but he didn’t know. It would hardly be the first injured player gets up gingerly. The circumstances are comparable, and to be fair to the MRP if we scream consistency at them, they are being consistent in this circumstance.
The reality is both instances were handled incredulously, but until we as fans stop pointing and laughing because “it’s those over the other side of the hills turn this time” the MRP will continue to do as they are doing; ruining the sport. Tribalism has let them create a situation where they have as much sway over a season as a ref does and that’s just insane.'"
Para 1: Well our player got banned for something vaguely similar so you should suck it up.
Para 2: We need to stop pointing and laughing when it happens to a player from a rival team.
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| Vaughn new the rules
Silly boy
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