Yep. A professional foul in a 'try scoring opportunity' is either a penalty try (if the video refs opinion is that a try would have been scored without the foul play) or a sin-binning, no middle ground. It was stupid of Fusitua.

My team [Leeds won't get anywhere near the grand final so I really hope a new name goes on the trophy this year. Good luck

Thewlis deserves praise for holding up over the line. How he did that on his own was fantastic.

Thewlis is a brilliant player

53,103 second lowest attendance for a Magic Weekend. Saturday 30,810 Sunday 22,293

Good. The fact they can't even flog it in RL heartland may help them decide to put the concept out to pasture. Utterly pointless enterprise that just repeats fixtures that have no meaning, half of which have no bearing on anything now.

There is talk of where it goes next year with Nottingham, Dublin and Paris in the conversation. I don’t ever want it going to Paris since the French decided to bale on the World Cup, don’t want to be putting money into their economy. Always fancied Dublin, and as for having it in the heartland I always thought the concept was to take it around the country to showcase the sport to new people.

Dublin works for me!

Quote ="Chris McKean"I'm getting Sita vibes from Musgrove. Comes on for 10-15mins most matches and offers very little.'" Seems Sam disagrees with you. Zane Musgrove’s longer minutes https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... fitzgibbon Musgrove has played in 18 of Warrington’s 21 games in Super League this season: and the former Samoa international has played longer minutes in recent weeks than what we’re used to seeing from him in a primrose and blue jersey thus far. “I think he’s been great,” Burgess said of Musgrove. “I’ve been trying to get him a few more minutes, I wanted to see him in that zone of fatigue and see how he managed it but he’s been great. “I think he’s played a lot for us, I think he’s only missed four or five games so he’s been pretty consistent for us.”

Quote ="Chris McKean"I'm getting Sita vibes from Musgrove. Comes on for 10-15mins most matches and offers very little.'" Seems Sam disagrees with you. Zane Musgrove’s longer minutes https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... fitzgibbon Musgrove has played in 18 of Warrington’s 21 games in Super League this season: and the former Samoa international has played longer minutes in recent weeks than what we’re used to seeing from him in a primrose and blue jersey thus far. “I think he’s been great,” Burgess said of Musgrove. “I’ve been trying to get him a few more minutes, I wanted to see him in that zone of fatigue and see how he managed it but he’s been great. “I think he’s played a lot for us, I think he’s only missed four or five games so he’s been pretty consistent for us.”

Team selection for next week, will be giving Burgess some food for thought. Would you rotate the middles, freshen up the pack. With Vaughan having a week off maybe. It’s now becoming to a point in the season where you’d want everyone fit and in form, that includes the fringe players.

Normally I would say yes but with it looking like points difference coming in to it I’d go strong. Only change I’m thinking of is Dufty he was still limping at the end of the game. Rather him fitter for Leigh

We definitely need to find a rest for Dufty, it would be a disaster for him to be burned out and get injured before the playoffs. Thewlis or Taylor-Wray are more than worthy cover options at FB.

Should be giving thewlis the option to play dufty style with williams, be better to give him some reps now than be forced into it mid game following an injury

Quote ="Wires71"Seems Sam disagrees with you. Zane Musgrove’s longer minutes https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... fitzgibbon Musgrove has played in 18 of Warrington’s 21 games in Super League this season: and the former Samoa international has played longer minutes in recent weeks than what we’re used to seeing from him in a primrose and blue jersey thus far. “I think he’s been great,” Burgess said of Musgrove. “I’ve been trying to get him a few more minutes, I wanted to see him in that zone of fatigue and see how he managed it but he’s been great. “I think he’s played a lot for us, I think he’s only missed four or five games so he’s been pretty consistent for us.”'" These are some stats from his last 6 matches. So he averaged 23mins per match. I'm not sure how that is him getting more minutes. He played 40mins in the London match but looks like he took it easy to allow himself to be on for that long, seeing as he only took 8 carries in. Leeds - 14mins 11 carries 63 metres 14 tackles London - 40mins 8 carries 74 metres 20 tackles Hull KR - 14mins 3 carries 22 metres 13 tackles Wigan - 22mins 9 carries 62 metres 10 tackles Saints - 20mins 5 carries 24 metres 13 tackles Leeds - 32mins 8 carries 72 metres 15 tackles

Quote ="Wires71"Seems Sam disagrees with you. Zane Musgrove’s longer minutes https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... fitzgibbon Musgrove has played in 18 of Warrington’s 21 games in Super League this season: and the former Samoa international has played longer minutes in recent weeks than what we’re used to seeing from him in a primrose and blue jersey thus far. “I think he’s been great,” Burgess said of Musgrove. “I’ve been trying to get him a few more minutes, I wanted to see him in that zone of fatigue and see how he managed it but he’s been great. “I think he’s played a lot for us, I think he’s only missed four or five games so he’s been pretty consistent for us.”'" These are some stats from his last 6 matches. So he averaged 23mins per match. I'm not sure how that is him getting more minutes. He played 40mins in the London match but looks like he took it easy to allow himself to be on for that long, seeing as he only took 8 carries in. Leeds - 14mins 11 carries 63 metres 14 tackles London - 40mins 8 carries 74 metres 20 tackles Hull KR - 14mins 3 carries 22 metres 13 tackles Wigan - 22mins 9 carries 62 metres 10 tackles Saints - 20mins 5 carries 24 metres 13 tackles Leeds - 32mins 8 carries 72 metres 15 tackles

Out of interest where do you find the minutes per game? Superleague site doesn't show that right?

He's our 4th best prop IMO, Vaughan, Harrison & Yates are all more than capable of being 50 - 60 minute props, so his game time will be limited given we only have 2* 80 minutes worth of prop time in a game. He's dong the job that's being asked of him - and Burgess seems pretty happy with him.

I was probably expecting a little more from him to be honest, but he's still ahead of Philbin and Wood for me in the pecking order, but they are on his heels.

Quote ="Chris McKean"These are some stats from his last 6 matches. So he averaged 23mins per match. I'm not sure how that is him getting more minutes. He played 40mins in the London match but looks like he took it easy to allow himself to be on for that long, seeing as he only took 8 carries in. Leeds - 14mins 11 carries 63 metres 14 tackles London - 40mins 8 carries 74 metres 20 tackles Hull KR - 14mins 3 carries 22 metres 13 tackles Wigan - 22mins 9 carries 62 metres 10 tackles Saints - 20mins 5 carries 24 metres 13 tackles Leeds - 32mins 8 carries 72 metres 15 tackles'" I would agree with you. Those stats are not ripping up any trees are they. The stats here (https://www.superleague.co.uk/player/1901/zane-musgrove) are not much better save for a 8.17 AG.

Quote ="Chris McKean"These are some stats from his last 6 matches. So he averaged 23mins per match. I'm not sure how that is him getting more minutes. He played 40mins in the London match but looks like he took it easy to allow himself to be on for that long, seeing as he only took 8 carries in. Leeds - 14mins 11 carries 63 metres 14 tackles London - 40mins 8 carries 74 metres 20 tackles Hull KR - 14mins 3 carries 22 metres 13 tackles Wigan - 22mins 9 carries 62 metres 10 tackles Saints - 20mins 5 carries 24 metres 13 tackles Leeds - 32mins 8 carries 72 metres 15 tackles'" I would agree with you. Those stats are not ripping up any trees are they. The stats here (https://www.superleague.co.uk/player/1901/zane-musgrove) are not much better save for a 8.17 AG.

Well it looks like Dufty is definitely out for this week. Having a scan this week, club don't think it's to serious.

I watch every game and for some reason when people have been subbed and come on usually sticks in my head. So i just quickly scanned the games to make sure my timings were about right and corrected where needs be. As you say, the superleague site doesn't show it. Sometimes it doesn't even show a sub on the events section which is pretty poor but about what you'd expect from RL.

I'd defiantly have Wood ahead of Musgrove. Philbin is a tougher decision. I'd compare Max Woods stats but again RL shows it's amateur make up because his name doesn't appear on the player stats page for the matches he played in. He doesn't even have a profile on our team page on the site even though he's been a first team player since mid last season.

Has he? I thought the line was he only signed on in January this year after trialing during pre season

Just read this on Guardian website, I was all for him having the week off anyway. Doubt he himself will want to be out to long if the comments made by Williams in jest about Dufty obsessed with MoM and MoS he will want to be playing.

I watched him play for Wigan in their Academy Semi against our Academy at the end of season play-off.

He was a substitute and scored a try in that game.

Wigan won but were disqualified for using too many interchanges.

Yea, I'm not sure why I thought he signed last season but for some reason I did until you pointed it out. It's still pathetic that he's not posted as a player and doesn't appear in any stats on the SL site

Those Musgrove stats are interesting. He is definitely not a bad player. But if you are playing <30 minutes per game, as a senior pro, you should really be blasting the opposition off the park when you are on the field, and I don't think he does that. Otherwise you are just getting someone else to do your job for you.

I've been disappointed with Musgrove and voiced it, but sitting back and thinking about it he's not actually doing a bad job.
He comes on, takes the ball up well and defends well. But i still think he plays low minutes and I think he's a bit lazy at times with little things he does.
But he's doing a job and letting Vaughan and Harrison etc get rest during games so helps avoid putting too much work on others.
Yates has been superb for that, really really happy with his signing.

I think that's why I struggle to get too exercised about it. Musgrove isn't a guy who is going to come on, give away two penalties or knock on near our own line. He averages one error in every four games and concedes one penalty in every three.

What I'd like to see is him playing longer minutes in Hull/Cas/London type games because we shouldn't have to burn out our top guys by making them playing 60-70 minutes in those sorts of games.