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| But in all seriousness what I found is most exciting is that for the first time I felt like I was watching the start of a new team rather than a post-peak and patched-up version of the 2011/12 team.
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| Nobody who played last night should be worried about their spot for the next game. Its nice that we will have such depth when everyone is fit, changing is just down right tinkering and not needed, let them gel. Injuries and suspension will happen that's the time for tinkering.
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| Congrats on the win but don't get too carried away. Your strong defence (largely Currie and Evans) and Leeds' lack of a goal kicker meant you took the victory, but only just.
Leeds lost captain McGuire on 31 minutes, had a half fit Sutcliffe back after a very lengthy injury and, bless him, James Child failing to refer to the video ref for Sandow's try (to a man the Sky commentary team and their resident comedian Stuart Cummins said it should have been no-try). You lacked any real attacking flair, certainly in the first half.
By the way, wasn't Child awful last night. He missed serveral things for and from both sides. Not a first grade referee, by any stretch of the imagination.
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| Quote ="Luke Leaner"Congrats on the win but don't get too carried away. Your strong defence (largely Currie and Evans) and Leeds' lack of a goal kicker meant you took the victory, but only just.
Leeds lost captain McGuire on 31 minutes, had a half fit Sutcliffe back after a very lengthy injury and, bless him, James Child failing to refer to the video ref for Sandow's try (to a man the Sky commentary team and their resident comedian Stuart Cummins said it should have been no-try). You lacked any real attacking flair, certainly in the first half.
By the way, wasn't Child awful last night. He missed serveral things for and from both sides. Not a first grade referee, by any stretch of the imagination.'"
If you don't think that beating Leeds at Headingley is an achievement then what is? And since when was the Sky commentating team the fountain of all truth when it comes to the rules of the game? As others have pointed out, apart from the Sandow try every 50/50 call went Leeds's way, so the Wire defence was all the more inexpressive for this fact.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"If you don't think that beating Leeds at Headingley is an achievement then what is? And since when was the Sky commentating team the fountain of all truth when it comes to the rules of the game? As others have pointed out, apart from the Sandow try every 50/50 call went Leeds's way, so the Wire defence was all the more inexpressive for this fact.'"
Don't forget a half fit Sutcliffe though - that's the real decider........
Having said that, you're not allowed to mention Russell who hasn't played since July, Julien making his debut in SL, Westerman who had almost no pre-season and the fact we were missing 3-4 nailed on first 17 players. Oh, and also the self inflicted penalties and dropped ball. If we had achieved similar possession/territory to Leeds I suspect we would have put 30 on them given Sandow's form with the limited opportunities he had last night.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"If you don't think that beating Leeds at Headingley is an achievement then what is? And since when was the Sky commentating team the fountain of all truth when it comes to the rules of the game? As others have pointed out, apart from the Sandow try every 50/50 call went Leeds's way, so the Wire defence was all the more inexpressive for this fact.'"
Yep. You're right, I'm wrong. This will be your year. Deffo.
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| Quote ="Luke Leaner"Yep. You're right, I'm wrong. This will be your year. Deffo.'"
Why thank you
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| Well I've enjoyed reading all 7 pages and now I've found my password I'll add my ten-penneth !
Watched at the pub last night darn sarf.
Desire and determination in defence was one of the very best I have ever seen by a Warrington team in the SL era.
No Wire player had a bad game, but there's plenty to look at with ball retention.
Sinfield was missed - but that's history - and injuries to their halves had an effect but you can only play what's in front of you.
Both teams will take plenty of positives from this match.
Russell - solid except for the indecision when picking up the kick through ball from Hall(?) in the second half. Sterling effort to try to stop the Hall try. Some good scoots from ptb 6/7
Lineham - Carried the ball strongly. Came in for a lot of work. No concerns that he'll get better 6
Evans - fantastic in defence ('reading' of the situation superb) and thank god for those 'knock ons'. They stopped certain tries. Totally different player to the one we saw at the end of last season (admittedly coming back from injury) 9
Currie - right up there with Evans and even more dangerous in attack. (Loved the mid field run, and the desire to stop Burrow / get to Watkins). Just how good is this kid going to be? All things being equal he's our first choice left centre unless Atkins has really proved himself in the off-season 9
Penny - careless with the ball for the knock-on (try opportunity for Leeds), needlessly shoved Briscoe out (penalty to Leeds), but in the right place for his try and more impressively his one on one tackle late on resulting in a Leeds pass forward was top draw 6
Gidley - that's why we bought him. Real good influence on the park. Got through a stack of work defensively and some useful work in attack. I want him with Sandow in the halves week in week out on this performance 8
Sandow - enjoying his job. You can tell. Defensively did well and the reading of the game with the cross-field kick was Briers-esque. Quite a lot of armory in his kit-bag. 8
Hill - very solid job. Strong defensively and drove the ball in hard. Got a bit frustrated at times and gave away a couple of pens. 8
Clark - some good defensive stuff and made yards with ptb runs (particularly late on) causing Leeds problems 7/8
Sims - 2 unforced knock-ons but did a lot of work - again particularly in defence 7
Hughes - gave away pens for lying on, but looks useful and will get better. 6/7
Westwood - some real good stuff by Bennie 7/8
Westermann - that guy got through a shed load of work and really impressed me. I think working under TS is just what he needs 8
Cox - wasn't expecting much, but some real strong runs in attack caused Leeds real problems 7
Dwyer - gave us a real lift when we needed it. Typical Dwyer 7
King - solid without being spectacular. Played well 6/7
Julien - impressive debut. Similar to Cox's 7
The TEAM appear to be together - early days. When the going gets tough - and it will - that's when we'll see how good it is.
But very encouraging.
Whether there's a 'John Clarke' influence or not (or a Richard Agar one for that matter) I don't know, but clearly a lot of work has been put in off season and we're up and running with 2 points.
I'd keep the same team for next week if everyone is fit.
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| Very pleasantly surprised with Cox (I'd forgotten how big he is) and Julien. The whole squad looked really fit and seriously up for it.
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| Team spirit seems light years ahead of last year. Looked like Ben W has bulked up (looking towards the front row?). Evans was phenomenal in defence and I suspect is fully fit for the first time in an age. D Clark looked happy in his job, I expect he will have a good season. Currie...all being well will have a similar impact on the game as Scully but hopefully without the move!
Gidley may prove to be the rudder we were missing last year and Sandow has the X factor.
Not sure it's the year of the Wolf but it should be a better year than last year!
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| I think Cox will surprise a few people this season, He is my Darkhorse of 2016
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| When Scully (and Harris) moved on Wire were in dire straits. There's no reason for anybody to leave the club now, Wire are a buying club. Should anybody move it will be a club decision not a player's.
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| Quote ="Luke Leaner"Yep. You're right, I'm wrong. This will be your year. Deffo.'"
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| Wot no "sack Agar " posts? Long may it continue !
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| Quote ="Luke Leaner"Congrats on the win but don't get too carried away. Your strong defence (largely Currie and Evans) and Leeds' lack of a goal kicker meant you took the victory, but only just.
Leeds lost captain McGuire on 31 minutes, had a half fit Sutcliffe back after a very lengthy injury and, bless him, James Child failing to refer to the video ref for Sandow's try (to a man the Sky commentary team and their resident comedian Stuart Cummins said it should have been no-try). You lacked any real attacking flair, certainly in the first half.
By the way, wasn't Child awful last night. He missed serveral things for and from both sides. Not a first grade referee, by any stretch of the imagination.'"
He's the worst of the lot for me, Child.
I agree about Sandow's try but as I said earlier, both of your tries came from Ryan Hall knock-ons given against us. It could have been 0-6, final score.
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| Quote ="Luke Leaner"Yep. You're right, I'm wrong. This will be your year. Deffo.'" If you say so. Just remember it was [i you [/iwho said it if you have any inclination to revisit the theme in the future.
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| Quote ="fez1"Currie - right up there with Evans and even more dangerous in attack. (Loved the mid field run, and the desire to stop Burrow / get to Watkins). Just how good is this kid going to be?
Sandow - enjoying his job. You can tell. Defensively did well and the reading of the game with the cross-field kick was Briers-esque. Quite a lot of armory in his kit-bag. 8
Westermann - that guy got through a shed load of work and really impressed me. I think working under TS is just what he needs 8 .'"
Prefer Currie in 2nd row where he can continue his path to becoming the new Sculthorpe. I suspect we'll see Ratchford play centre as the Gidley/Sandow partnership looks too promising to tinker with, and both Russell and Johnson are better fullbacks.
Sandow - some wits on the Guardian ( national ) have come up with ' [iSandow Ballet[/i' - pretty neat description
Westerman - when at Cas he was probably rated as 'the new Sculthorpe' himself, so we have to hope that he returns to that form at the Wire.
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I think Warrington Guardian might be over-exaggerating our defensive efforts!
Third paragraph: "...which saw Warrington defend 60 more sets than their opponents..."
www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... ing_night/
I think that is meant to be 60 more tackles - which is a big achievement. 60 more sets would be a miracle!
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I think Warrington Guardian might be over-exaggerating our defensive efforts!
Third paragraph: "...which saw Warrington defend 60 more sets than their opponents..."
www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... ing_night/
I think that is meant to be 60 more tackles - which is a big achievement. 60 more sets would be a miracle!
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| One little point about Daryl Clark, in the last two sets he made a couple of runs that meant a very tired side reached halfway on the fifth tackle which took so much pressure off.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Prefer Currie in 2nd row where he can continue his path to becoming the new Sculthorpe. I suspect we'll see Ratchford play centre as the Gidley/Sandow partnership looks too promising to tinker with, and both Russell and Johnson are better fullbacks.
Sandow - some wits on the Guardian ( national ) have come up with '[iSandow Ballet[/i' - pretty neat description
Westerman - when at Cas he was probably rated as 'the new Sculthorpe' himself, so we have to hope that he returns to that form at the Wire.'"
I am sure a certain local commentator came up with that one. It must be true. Gold.
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| Gutted just got back from three days golf in Portugal, first thing I put on was the game I tapped and it only recorded the first half ... Fuming is an understatement. What I did see was impressive especially the defensive effort from the whole team.
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