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| Quote ="shooter69"you cant say much can you watching it on tv can you'" it's a thing called wembley and i couldn't afford to go and watch tonight, which is why i was asking what went on.
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| Quote ="Jungle Jim"I thought the behaviour of a lot of Wire fans was very disapointing tonight. It seems we have attracted a large number of "glory hunters" already! How many of our so called fans actually watched the game tonight? I personally didn't enjoy tonight at all. To me the annual visit to Wigan is the highlight of the year. Sadly this wasn't the case this time. I am thinking it will be nice to get the Wembley trip out of the way so we can get back to supporting the team in the normal manner. What a sad way to feel after such a long wait! I hope the s aren't going to spoil our day out!'"
Yeah lets get it out the way jesus some people really are too sensitive
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yes, true. They should indeed ban the stewards at the piedome. All they do is spoil a bit of a laugh.
It's a sad state of affairs when some happy fans can't do a conga. Pathetic, it really is.'"
Maybe it was a case of them having a problem with a few of the wire fans being happy cos we were losing. How very dare we? We supposed to be stood with arms crossed and bottom lip sticking out down to the third buttonwhole on our shirts and look like we've eaten our own socks. Or better still, do the wigan walk....
And as for a wire fan singing to a big wigan fan about eating pies..........have a look at the locked wigan thread on page 2 and 3 and see if the perfect wiganers didnt just poke a tiny little bit of fun at a big warrington fan that we saw on telly.
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| Quote ="Bilko"That would be correct. The whole incident was a bit of both. Stewards went in a bit quick but you still can't condone the response of some Wire fans. One big fat bloke in particular who (unless you've another big agressive fat bloke) was at the heart of the trouble last week. I saw him smack a surrending Wigan fan on the jaw at Widnes.
In terms of the Conga I bet some wires fans probably think "arrrghh bloody killjoys it's health & safety gone mad" as well but I think younger supporters should be thankful how safe grounds are these days and why the health and safety aspect is so aggressive which all came about following the tragic hillsborough disaster in 1989 and more in particular the 1985 Valley Parade fire in which 55 fans literally burned to death after a small fire believed to have been caused by a disgarded cigarette engulfed a whole stand within about 2 minutes. I saw footage of that incident and trust me it mentally scarred me for life.'" on behalf of all big fat blokes i feel a better description is required in future.
i saw lots of skinny folk missbehaving last week, i gave the description to the police they arrested all skinny folk, hence the poor attendance last night
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| Quote ="Jungle Jim"I thought the behaviour of a lot of Wire fans was very disapointing tonight. It seems we have attracted a large number of "glory hunters" already! How many of our so called fans actually watched the game tonight? I personally didn't enjoy tonight at all. To me the annual visit to Wigan is the highlight of the year. Sadly this wasn't the case this time. I am thinking it will be nice to get the Wembley trip out of the way so we can get back to supporting the team in the normal manner. What a sad way to feel after such a long wait! I hope the s aren't going to spoil our day out!'"
I agree totally with you there. As in society there is an element that you are embarassed to be associated with.I have been to virtually all the matches home and away over the past 19 years and I have to say that some of the fans behaviour is a discrace and living in between both St Helens and Wigan both sides comment on it.
If a steward was pushed that was unacceptable and if the minority of our fans can not behave we will end up being policed.There was a mum in front of me giving one and two finger salutes every other word a swear word - is it really needed.Can people just not attend , have a good time and enjoy the match.
As mentioned previously if some drunken tool had fell and ended up in hospital or died people would have been slagging the stewards off.
I also can empathise with a few stewards going up in to hundreds of wire fans.
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| Quote ="Billinge Wires"I agree totally with you there. As in society there is an element that you are embarassed to be associated with.I have been to virtually all the matches home and away over the past 19 years and I have to say that some of the fans behaviour is a discrace and living in between both St Helens and Wigan both sides comment on it.
If a steward was pushed that was unacceptable and if the minority of our fans can not behave we will end up being policed.There was a mum in front of me giving one and two finger salutes every other word a swear word - is it really needed.Can people just not attend , have a good time and enjoy the match.
As mentioned previously if some drunken tool had fell and ended up in hospital or died people would have been slagging the stewards off.
I also can empathise with a few stewards going up in to hundreds of wire fans.'"
There is a way to do it though
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What the Conga may have looked like!!
Oh No!!
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| Quote ="Wire_85"There is a way to do it though'"
yes which is to identify the offender and pick him out as he's leaving, the irony is he was not even charged with any thing.
i have done security at a champions league final so have a right to comment. stewards were trying to save face last night because they were unable to "control" some kids who were getting giddy, lets face facts
no one left early because they were scared, wigan fans get over yourself, you do the walk every week, i have photographic proof that you have "early leaver turnstyles"
no one got hurt/ arrested. unlike last week when several pie trouble makers did(arrested that is) so who's the worst fans?
and not one wigan fan would be on here moaning if they had won last week!
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| Quote ="SLIMply the best"yes which is to identify the offender and pick him out as he's leaving, the irony is he was not even charged with any thing.
i have done security at a champions league final so have a right to comment. stewards were trying to save face last night because they were unable to "control" some kids who were getting giddy, lets face facts
no one left early because they were scared, wigan fans get over yourself, you do the walk every week, i have photographic proof that you have "early leaver turnstyles"
no one got hurt/ arrested. unlike last week when several pie trouble makers did(arrested that is) so who's the worst fans?
and not one wigan fan would be on here moaning if they had won last week!
I think you are getting mistaken there mate. What is he going to be charged with.. He would only be charged if he committed an offence and was arrested and taken to a police station.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"To be fair the conga does need to be done properly, and to music to be appreciated..........and the leg must be kicked out to the Side (like Sam tomkins did on Bridge) for it to be a proper conga......if these simple rules were broken then the stewards were right to step in......'"
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| I think Mother Feka should join MI5 with her eagle eye to see a steward being pushed. I alike her was sat in the Wigan Stand and it sure looked like a case a draconian heavy handed stewarding.
Rushing up stairs and grabbing lads by the collar and dragging? I'd have pushed him back down the stairs when he got up.
Mother Feka and Co have yet again exemplified the sentence - "You only see what you want to see".
I agree that a Conga isn't best placed in a Stadium, but it was causing no harm or offence until heavy handed stewarding tactics turned the mood sour.
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| I must admit I could have quite cheerfully have given a good kicking to quite a few of our 'supporters' last night. Some of them were so beered up and foul mouthed I am surprised they even bother coming out of the pub to watch the game.
Not as bad as some of the Wigan weenies are making out though, as they are more of an embarrassment than any real 'threat'.
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| This is by no means a new thing. A Wigan away game a few season ago I had some drunken 14-year-olds behind me who had actually managed to sneak in a bottle of Aftershock and were passing it between them. I don't think any of them were there for the game, just there to shout abuse, mess around and generally cause a disturbance and ruin it for everyone else. We, like every team, have these idiots. Unfortunately it just becomes exacerbated when a team starts to become successful.
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| You think stopping the Conga was the worst of the stewards, think again.
At Rochdale one year the last game of the season was against Whitehaven who wern't in the play-offs and decided to have a fancy dress theme. The cowboy had his toy guns taken off him and the two 118118 guys were told to sit down when they ran up and down the front of the seats at half time shouting "Got your number."
Little Hitlers, everyone of 'em!
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Correct, absolute nutters.'" ignore this idiot he is the biggest sh*t stirring rent boy on this forum now he will read this and run back to his board asking for help two faced pillock just heard on sky news killer conga strikes in wigan
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| Quote ="lets play"ignore this idiot he is the biggest sh*t stirring rent boy on this forum now he will read this and run back to his board asking for help two faced pillock
just heard on sky news killer conga strikes in wigan'"
Agreed. Moderators need to ban him as he continually describes us all as 'scum' and seems determined to stir up trouble between the two cllubs.
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| Quote ="Rugbychickâ„¢"This is by no means a new thing. A Wigan away game a few season ago I had some drunken 14-year-olds behind me who had actually managed to sneak in a bottle of Aftershock and were passing it between them. I don't think any of them were there for the game, just there to shout abuse, mess around and generally cause a disturbance and ruin it for everyone else. We, like every team, have these idiots. Unfortunately it just becomes exacerbated when a team starts to become successful.'"
I was actually going to post that Cath, but then I saw that you had already posted it. I don't know what it is, but the only time I have ever seen some of our supporters really out of their heads on alcohol is Wigan away.
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| Quote ="Billinge Wires"'"
breach of the peace, affray, sec 4 public order act, if he had put a stewards life at risk, which he didn't so they didn't take him to the police, and don't edit my post!
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| Just one for all the pies moaning about this dangerous conga anyone else see the one the pies in the south stand did after the game? right at the top of the stand could of fell all the way down an died bloody stewards.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Agreed. Moderators need to ban him as he continually describes us all as 'scum' and seems determined to stir up trouble between the two cllubs.'"
Well let me tell you, I was walking back to the car with Odemwingie last night and when we were passing a group of Warrington fans one of them who was clearly drunk came right up to him and started mouthing off in his face for absolutely no reason other than he was trying to cause bother. Odemwingie would have been justified in smacking the little scroat but did the sensible thing and just ignored him. That is why he felt the need to describe the guy as scum. That is not the sort of behaviour we expect at rugby matches.
We attended the semi last week and I have so say that all the Warrington fans we passed were well behaved and were just enjoying the occasion. Unfortunately there is a small element who occasionally just go too far. This needs to be stamped out from whichever club it is from, Wigan included.
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| Quote ="nohalfbacks"Well let me tell you, I was walking back to the car with Odemwingie last night and when we were passing a group of Warrington fans one of them who was clearly drunk came right up to him and started mouthing off in his face for absolutely no reason other than he was trying to cause bother. Odemwingie would have been justified in smacking the little scroat but did the sensible thing and just ignored him. That is why he felt the need to describe the guy as scum. That is not the sort of behaviour we expect at rugby matches.
We attended the semi last week and I have so say that all the Warrington fans we passed were well behaved and were just enjoying the occasion. Unfortunately there is a small element who occasionally just go too far. This needs to be stamped out from whichever club it is from, Wigan included.'"
Was Cam with you?
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| Quote ="nohalfbacks"Well let me tell you, I was walking back to the car with Odemwingie last night and when we were passing a group of Warrington fans one of them who was clearly drunk came right up to him and started mouthing off in his face for absolutely no reason other than he was trying to cause bother. Odemwingie would have been justified in smacking the little scroat but did the sensible thing and just ignored him. That is why he felt the need to describe the guy as scum. That is not the sort of behaviour we expect at rugby matches.
We attended the semi last week and I have so say that all the Warrington fans we passed were well behaved and were just enjoying the occasion. Unfortunately there is a small element who occasionally just go too far. This needs to be stamped out from whichever club it is from, Wigan included.'"
And you have just reinforced the point; 'small minority'. Your friend keeps describing us all as 'scum'.
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| [size=150[uWIRE SCUM[/u[/size
a poem by Wire_Yed
did you not know that wire were scum ?
we came to your ground and we beat the drum.
losing at half time we should have been glum
at the final whistle we should have been numb.
you outplayed us, never gave us a crumb.
played well for 20 and then succumb
we got in the cars and went back to our slum
in the land were we are collectively known as scum.
but i'll crack out the champagne and bring out the rum
cos on the 29th i'll have the fun and you'll be at home sat on your bum.
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| and on that very elegant note
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