Quote ="WazzaWire"No Chris Riley - so who plays? Injured or a kick up the behind? Been getting some stick on here so will be interesting to see what happens!'" Gene Ormsby www.thisischeshire.co.uk/sport/11020100._/?

Quote ="WazzaWire"No Chris Riley - so who plays? Injured or a kick up the behind? Been getting some stick on here so will be interesting to see what happens!'" Gene Ormsby www.thisischeshire.co.uk/sport/11020100._/?

I'd imagine dropped after being exposed defensively last week and also far too often last season. Good to see another youngster given their chance.

How i think he'll line us up

1. Ratchford
2. J.Monaghan
3. Bridge
4. Atkins
5. Ormsby
6. O'Brien
7. Myler
8. Hill
9. Higham
10. Asotasi
11. Waterhouse
12. Westwood
13. Grix

14. England
15. Evans
16. Currie
17. M.Monaghan

Laithwaite and Dwyer to miss out

Agreed

No M Monaghan at scrum half?

Not unless we want a repeat of Thursday and all of 2008

TS confirms Riley dropped on BBC radio.

I suspect this might be about the size of the Leeds outside backs. Ormsby is 4 inches taller and almost 2 stone heavier than Penny which might be helpful up against Tom Briscoe.

Agreed

He's been on borrowed time for a while now and it'll be nice to see another youngster given a chance to show what he can do.

Be good to see o Brien at 6,and England add some size to the pack..not expecting a victory, but a vast improvement in attitude from the saints game.not sure about ormsby with atkins, another winger to be exposed because of his mistakes IMO.

Be good to see o Brien at 6,and England add some size to the pack..not expecting a victory, but a vast improvement in attitude from the saints game.not sure about ormsby with atkins, another winger to be exposed because of his mistakes IMO.

I'm glad to see Ormsby get his chance at Super League level. When he played for the Under 20's he always had a high work rate, taking the ball in plenty and looking strong for his size, which was smaller than he is now.

Now he has improved physically, and had Championship experience I'm sure he'll do well.

It's great to see we're going for O’Brien at 6, we need the organisation and also his kicking game.

That's what I would go with as well. I hope gene ormsby, Anthony England and Gaz O'Brian grab this chance and make themselves very difficult to leave out. Last week opened the door for anyone coming in to the side to impress and force their way in to the first team plans. Also the lads who keep their places despite failing to impress get an opportunity to show a positive response, I expect us to be much better this week.

Interesting, I'm not sure whether Riley does all that much wrong or its just Atkins recent poor form that's making him look bad. I'd have took Atkins out as well and give Evens a go. But looking at the Leeds back line Atkins is needed for a bit of strength. Is it worth it though if he's constantly out of position and throwing passes that should n't be made?

Certainly that was the case last week. If Ormsby is as quick then his size will be an asset.

Players didn't play well individually or as a team last week and TS's tactics failed.
He needs to take some responsibility.

I thought Jordan Burke might have got a shout this week. He played well v Leigh and $alford. Hopefully Grix can add a bit off beef yo the pack and give us some go forward.

Surely it should be Atkins dropped. Also begs the question why did we sign Penny back.

Well, I've probably been more critical of the Saints game and certain individuals performances in it than most, but now is obviously the time to think ahead, not back - one game ahead to be exact.

I'd echo the thoughts of others - we need a sparkling debut from Ormsby because Briscoe will be brimming with confidence, but we need everyone to be 20% better than they were last week, particularly in the forwards.

I'm also keen to see England get some game time, but I'd sound a note of caution - the lad hasn't played competitive SL yet so we can't expect too much too soon.

Finally - Richie Myler. Shut me up, prove me wrong and send me home smiling.

Riley has the turning circle of the Titanic, too many teams have realised this and kick into the space behind him. Time to try somebody else.

Wire by 4
Joel M first try

Wrong thread geezer

Oops, ta!

love it

I am more than happy with this team news