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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Yes, looks like we have indeed signed Savelio;
Age 20
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Height / Weight 188cm, 110Kg
When I have seen him play he has shown good ball handling skills, is very difficult to stop near the line and is reminiscent of Solo in the way he can offload from the tackle. His dad is Lokeni Savelio who played for Widnes and Fax in the 90's (I don't think I remember him) and lives in Warrington.
I suppose the question for me would be why would Saints let him go when they have been training him since the age of 14 and he is just emerging into their first team - I think he has played 15 or so games this year. Have we paid them a big wad to get him ? If so it seems ironic that we have only a handful of local kids that establish themselves in the first team, yet we are having to pay Saints to get one of them back.'"
Hi Charlie,
i don`t think its a case of St Helens letting him go. His contract will expire after the end of this season, & to-date they have been unsuccessful in getting him to sign a new one.
If we do sign him, though, they will be entitled to transfer fee given his current age. However I would anticipate that the figure would not be a significant, even if the transfer went to a tribunal.
If he does sign for Wire, the contract should be for a lengthy period, which could be good business & a massive transfer fee to the Wire in the future, if the NRL clubs start to chase him in a couple of years time.
Regards
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| Given the help Wire gave to Saints with GOB on loan during their crisis period, I would hope any transfer deal would be token.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Hi Charlie,
i don`t think its a case of St Helens letting him go. His contract will expire after the end of this season, & to-date they have been unsuccessful in getting him to sign a new one.
If we do sign him, though, they will be entitled to transfer fee given his current age. However I would anticipate that the figure would not be a significant, even if the transfer went to a tribunal.
If he does sign for Wire, the contract should be for a lengthy period, which could be good business & a massive transfer fee to the Wire in the future, if the NRL clubs start to chase him in a couple of years time.
Regards
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Thanks for that, didn't realise his contract ended this year, that's even better.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Given the help Wire gave to Saints with GOB on loan during their crisis period, I would hope any transfer deal would be token.'"
I don't think we will have a say in this. The RFL have a compensation payment for young players under 21 moving from the club that trained them - something like £5k / year, with another £5 on top if they are earning over £25k. Admittedly small beer though compared to the fee that he might have commanded if still contracted. Thanks Saints.
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| Wow, he's gone from hero to zero on the equivalent thread on the Stain's board. Must be handier than he's looked recently to get them that agitated.
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| Quote ="vintage73"Wow, he's gone from hero to zero on the equivalent thread on the Stain's board. Must be handier than he's looked recently to get them that agitated.'"
It's not just that he's rumoured to be leaving that has irked Saints fans. It's the fact that last year or the year before, Saints stood by him when he had pretty serious health problems and it was unclear whether he'd be able to play sport full stop, nevermind professionally. For him to repay this perceived loyalty by leaving so soon to a rival club leaves a sour taste in the mouth. That and the fact Saints have been trying to get him to sign a contract for months and he hasn't done, apparently.
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| Quote ="Saint #1"It's not just that he's rumoured to be leaving that has irked Saints fans. It's the fact that last year or the year before, Saints stood by him when he had pretty serious health problems and it was unclear whether he'd be able to play sport full stop, nevermind professionally. For him to repay this perceived loyalty by leaving so soon to a rival club leaves a sour taste in the mouth. That and the fact Saints have been trying to get him to sign a contract for months and he hasn't done, apparently.'"
Clubs and their players, in reality, are just businesses and their employees. There's no sentimentality on either part. If an employee is surplus to requirements at a business, if he's become too old, if he's not good enough anymore, if they can find someone better - the employee will be told he is leaving even if the employee puts his heart and soul into everything he does for that business. So when an employee is offered one contract and then offered a better one by another business, he's going to choose the better contract in most circumstances. There's nowt wrong with that, even if the first business stood by him through a tough time...it's time to start earning some real money since he'll be retiring at 35.
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| Might be a few crying into their beer on here reading some of this. Some news on Andre being released by Saints in next 24 hours
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| I've heard he's staying at saints! Where do people get these '100% confirmed' rumours from?
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"I've heard he's staying at saints! Where do people get these '100% confirmed' rumours from?'"
Where did you get your rumour from? It's as unconfirmed as the original one?
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| It was never 100% that he was going to Warrington as nothing was signed.
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| Quote ="Nickles Forearm"Might be a few crying into their beer on here reading some of this. Some news on Andre being released by Saints in next 24 hours
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| Yes he instantly gets his world class tm back...probably why he's going to re-sign he was scared of losing it from his cv. My opinion of him as a player is now wholly dependent on the next 24 hours...Andre you're either a future super league star or another bracek imo.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Will that coincide with him no longer being gash?'"
I've never once said Dre was 'gash' in fact closer to the complete opposite
The lads full of potential and will be a top SL player in a few years time & will absolutely be NRL bound thereafter. (That's regardless of who he plays for)
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Will that coincide with him no longer being gash?'"
Depends on whether they'll hold a grudge against him for using Wire to up his contract offer. Going off what a few of them were like after a Wire-bound rumour, they probably will.
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| If we sign him great, along with Currie we will have two of the best young, British back row forward prospects in the game.
If he doesn't sign we have no doubt upped his salary at saints, stretching their salary cap more than they wanted. Not all bad.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"If we sign him great, along with Currie we will have two of the best young, British back row forward prospects in the game.
If he doesn't sign we have no doubt upped his salary at saints, stretching their salary cap more than they wanted. Not all bad.'"
Andre was born in New Zealand, his parents came to England when he was a toddler so that his dad could play. If he gets to international standard he will play for New Zealand there is no question of that.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"Andre was born in New Zealand, his parents came to England when he was a toddler so that his dad could play. If he gets to international standard he will play for New Zealand there is no question of that.'"
Potentially could play for either country then? Either way, he is British developed.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"He is and all credit to those involved at his amateur clubs, Warrington and Sts. Pity he will not be in an England/GB shirt.'"
Is that a definite then? It's a huge proportion of someone's life for them not to feel like they're English/British.
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| Quote ="fez1"I'd like him in a Wire shirt but certainly not as our marquee signing.'"
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