You can add me to that list.

No direction
No enthusiasm
No belief
No team spirit
No flare

I'm not even going to mention using Penny as a scapegoat.

I didn't want him when he was given the job, nothing has happened since to change my mind.

It would be an ideal job for the Barry and Paul Chuckle as they can do panto in the off season

you've become me in 06 over cullen.

It's not a nice feeling either when you realise it.

why not axe lowes then give nigel wright, say, 7 games in charge, then offer him a permanent contract

The team plays in the image of their coach. It is always so.

And if Lowes is so inexperienced why the hell are Warrington acting as a guinea pig?

Me too nothing has changed & nothing will until we get someone who has experience to win us a cup or even get us there would be a start!

Sick of thinking I've wasted my money every week

Has to be Hanley. He is soooo strict, the club wont know whats hit them and thats exactly what we need now. A born winner and somebody who will instill team values on the squad whilst improving individuals and for those who dont want to play there part, shows them the door.

Could be a match winner for this year if Tony Smith or somebody else is a done deal for 2010. C'mon Mr Moran, you know it makes sense. Lose against Wakefield on friday and Lowes will have lost the last 10!!

no matter what coach we have, warrington fans will still moan.

Not if we play with conviction, passion, pride etc and have some degree of success.....

some warrington fans will still find something to moan about

Looking at our Last few fixtures, I don't blame anyone for moaning at the mo, last time we won was Leeds in August 2008.

Makes grim reading...

02 Sat Aug 08 Leeds Rhinos 19:30 Home W 22-12

09 Sat Aug 08 St Helens 19:00 Away L 16-17

17 Sun Aug 08 Hull Kingston Rovers 15:00 Home L 34-36

24 Sun Aug 08Castleford Tigers 19:30 Away L 24-44

06 Sat Sep 08 Huddersfield Giants 18:00 Home L 20-38

13 Sat Sep 08 Catalans Dragons 18:30 Away L 8-46

13 Fri Feb 09 St Helens 20:00 Away L 14-26

21 Sat Feb 09 Catalan Dragons 18:00 Home L 20-40

He can't handle big clubs with big name players according to Hull fans (thanks for the CCup you got us NOT). So he is of no use to you as he might actually sign a load of local British kids and make a team out of em.

Seriously, a great coach but not for Warrington - he needs a free hand and I don't think he would get that at Warrington.

Tony Smith is probably your best bet.

That is what I have always thought; functions best as an 'underdog' coach and wouldn't deal with all the egos in the Warrington dressing room.

He was coaching Trinity under 19's last year, he is such a rookie he makes Lowes look like Wayne Bennett, get a grip

I think you will find that was a joke referring to the appointment of Lowes last year.

The problem with Cullen, Lowes Hanley is they aren't proven coaches with a track record behind them. We've had years of that & our club should be setting the standard in coaching, not being a training ground for NL1 people looking to learn their SL trade with us.

Edwards won't leave where he is.

When Smiths name came up (I'll dig this out) I said there's 2 problems with him. 1) He couldn;t get the Leeds & Saints lads to sit on the same bench in the World Cup. Would he be someone who could win the whole dressing room.

2) his style is for mobile, ball playing forwards, hit the collision, get the ball played straight away. Whereas our team is spending 18 months going in the opposite direction & becoming battering rams. It'll take 2 seasons to get the personnel right & to adapt to the style.

We need a rated coach with decent experience who has a background in specialist defence.

The only one who fits that bill is Trevor Gilmeister.

Oh & panties can be in charge of the web site.

Why do i get all the exciting jobs?

I want something that I can get my teeth into, ie ordering the sausage rolls and hotdogs or even sorting the cheerleaders out.

One huge problem with Lowes, from the outset, is that he was a part of the Cullen regime that was ultimately deemed not good enough to take Warrington to the allegedly achievable 'next level'.

As assistant to Cullen, he was obviously associated with the underachievement of the side. On being given the coach's job himself, it is surely unsurprising that he has felt the need to develop his own way of doing things in order to distance himself from what had gone before.

I had hopes that this might be a positive move - sadly, what we have seen is that the team are performing even less effectively than under Cullen. If there are the problems within the squad that have been widely mentioned, then the board are surely culpable for failing to recognise that merely promoting a member of the existing staff would be extremely unlikely to sort this out. You can’t suddenly say ‘you can’t do this or that anymore’, with any degree of believability, when you were standing round watching it happen in the first place.

If I'm doing me sums right the Leeds game is the only game Lowes has won under his new contract as head coach.

G. With regards Hanley.. Do you think he'll stick with it. I can understand the appeal of having someone who won't stand for any messing; but has he gone a season as coach without either getting fed up, or the club geting fed up with him ?

hanley has no sense of humour what so ever, the one thing you truly need if your to take charge of warrington.

This is why I never believe the rumours that go round. Rumours have always been easy to start and spread round the pubs, but now the internet is around it is even easier.

If the happenings behind the scenes were so bad, it would have been sorted. I'm going to touch back on the nostalgia piece again, when people have great memories about the late 80's teams, yet these kinds of rumours still went round then, and the team performed at a similar level to current Wire teams in the league.

If we lose, the fans get on players backs, yet IMO, we didn;t lose the other night due to lack of effort. Every time we lose it is down to lack of effort according to many, but could it just be that things like concentration, skill levels, fitness levels, tactics and decision making etc. are to blame?

Monas and King have been two of the biggest flops for years at Warrington IMO, yet I wouldn't question their effort.

Briers and Gleeson get a hell of a lot of stick, yet between them they have been one of the most dynamic attacking combinations in SL for the last few years.
It has now become accepted that Warrington have a culture issue, and the amount of times I have heard rumours from my mate who doesn't use the internet forums, when it is clear it has been started by the usual suspects is unbelievable. People take these rumours as gospel, spread them round, and then it makes it easier to believe it next time.

Bradford and Leeds have had their fair share of off field disciplinary problems, yet because they have won, there isn't an issue.

As a team, we just aren't good enough.

Yet we have a group of talented players??????

Yep. The things I noted as factors - [iconcentration, skill levels, fitness levels, tactics and decision making [/i- can all apply to talented players.

Skills need to be worked on constantly to be maintained and improved.

Fitness is a clear thing that can be improved through good training programmes.

Tactics, clearly a coaching issue.

Decision making, can be due to players not handling pressure well, or poor tactical awareness which can be worked on.

Concentration - this is one of our big areas, and I think this is through mental toughness and awareness of what is happening around them. Poor fitness levels can affect concentration levels.

The above things are factors in our lack of success, and none of these are factors which must have been caused by off-field issues.

People talk about all the years of under-achievement, yet for how many years have we actually spent the same as the top teams? 4 or 5 or so. These are the years that we should compare ourselves with the big 4, and I agree that we have underachieved in these years, as we should have been top 4 each of these years, but prior to that, when you look back at the squads, we had pants players in some positions.

I've said before, I'll only concede, that these players aren't good enough when they are given a coach with a pedigree and they still fail to deliver success. If that's the case, I'd then advacate a complete squad overhaul, until then, I'm still of the belief that we haven't had the correct man in charge to provide leadership and get this squad to realise it's potential. What makes me sad, is that I thought Cull could be that man, his passion along with the progress that we were making in 2005, I thought we'd get there but sadly never did.

I think Tony Smith would fancy his chances of getting this lot to a final given say, 2 years and a few tweaks of personnel.