Of course I'm not sat here fist bumping and claiming it was a great performance. But we won. Won despite a truly shocking performance as you consider it. So that in itself some would consider a positive. Absolutely fine if that win has soured your weekend, I'm just suggesting maybe it's not all doom and gloom

I'm just glad Williams was fit enough to play. If Stef had been filling in again, we might well have lost that. Our attack was brighter today than against Salford, but we shot ourselves in the foot with so many errors. Just relieved to win, really.

This team is going backwards at an alarming rate.Awful yet again.

2 points - fortunately.
Entertaining to watch for the neutrals I guess but so many errors.
A lot of our issues were self inflicted.
A half decent attacking team would have mullered us.

Hull have some decent youngsters - Moy, Martin and Barmforth.

Max Wood had a good game.
Dufty - Mr. Marmite.

No point in beating ourselves up. We got the 2 points, build on it.

Let's move on.

Okay, here’s a positive from today. Thewlis was excellent. Not a lot else to cheer about but thought he had a great game

I’m not sure how Dufty can be both the best and worst player on the pitch, but he did it.

Awful game, truly awful. I think I counted 5 or 6 errors from Dufty, and he can moan and kick stones all he wants about that decision about being forced in goal, but if he just traps the ball and picks it up without messing around it takes the decision away from the ref.

Frustrating day, but 2 points. There’s a few who will look to take a shot at Vaughan, but Harrison made 27 meters and Bullock 13. I’m not sure pointing at Vaughan is going to achieve anything, he isn’t the issue. Musgrove was our best, in my opinion. There’s just a huge disparity with work rate, Powell didn’t carry the ball at all, Holroyd and Harrison making less than 30m from starting positions. It’s just not good enough. That said, can’t make many meters when you turn it over so often.

47% completion rate does not help those stats either.

Not a great performance. Considering how little ball we had, and how poor our completion was when we did, it was remarkable that we won and how few times they actually broke our line. Harrison was incredibly anonymous.

Positives were that we were pretty resilient in defence and the three tries they scored came either from intercepts or on the back of a shocking decision by Thaler.

A positive, there was a chance for Hull in the second half when Tai and Thewlis got it all wrong and the winger bombed it. The next attack down that side saw Thewlis come up with a belting tackle, superb read and executed it perfectly. I was particularly critical of Thewlis on this earlier in the year, and over the past two seasons, but even after a mistake he had the confidence to try again and pull it off.

And again, Musgrove. Different player today. Good meters, ran hard and that tackle on half time was absolutely necessary! Yes he got pushed back, but was in control of the ball.

Toby King and Ben Currie too worked hard. I thought Currie was going to win it for us when he made the break on the left, shame Dufty couldn’t hold it.

One to forget. 2 points secured. Didn't go so can't complain.

Observation - we need more than a hardworking journeyman added to our pack for 2025.

It annoys me how we don’t take early opportunities to go 2 scores ahead early on a kick a dg.
Why go for it under a pressure situation?
We got lucky.

Been wembley ok we lost and in the top 4 half way thru the season I'd take that

Yes true. Expectations were low and we are better than we thought.

I'm not understanding the Dufty marmite comments without Dufty today we lose simple as. Even when the guy does more of what people are asking for cover tackle if Welsby or Field get back and make that tackle their fans would be applauding not saying how he should do even more, take more of the high balls, he still gets stick.
I thought he was hard done to on the bringing it out call, there was errors across the park today.
But we have the best fullback in SL, with the possible exception of French now he's playing there in Fields absence.
Do i wish he cut out some of the 'Matt Hufty' behaviour yeah but id rather appreciate what he brings than look for sometimes undeserved shortcomings.

As others have said thought Josh Thewlis was great today.

We need to to take it right back to basics in the next game, and (obviously) cut down on all the stupid errors.

Also, if we don't have Dufty in the team then we're not sitting in a play off place in my opinion.

Could he be a better defensive full back? Yes
Could he be a better attacking full back? No

Oh yes, our forwards need to massively improve their game and increase their impact too.

Welsby or field would have got back into position , and not been mia for rhe sutcliffe try, or awol for that drop out they forced from king.

Hes great going forward, just every other part of his game, he zeems to make life harder for himself. The weird jittery stuff when hes catching a kick

I was mystified when Thaler pinged him for an incorrect play the ball. Couldn't see anything wrong with it myself.

Dufty won us the game.
The haters can…
Read em and weep

Not much doubt about it that Williams & Dufty are our best players. Both can be infuriating as both can be casual & sometimes overdo it. Dufty's tackle on Tuimavave was special. In defence he can't be expected to be everywhere. Williams looked to be keeping out of trouble ... probably due to injury.
We defended wonderfully & that shows how much they care but our attack did not respect the ball or the opposition. Wood made a try from nothing but generally we were awful in possession. Musgrove worked hard. Bullock was hardly used & was taken off as soon as we needed to press on & win the game.
Hull will start winning a few more.

Strange to be so deflated after a win, but we got away with it yesterday when we should have been at least 18 points clear. We still have a mental issue, silly mistakes and wrong options, which puts us behind Saints and Wigan.

Welsby on his best day with a following wind if he is in the line isn't getting back to that 1st tackle let alone the line.

Field Probably gets back for the tackle and maybe gets back into the line but i dont think he stops Suttcliffe the kick was 2-3 meters short and hed have been sweeping in goal.

The king one King had it, no need for Dufty and didn't result in anything.

Welsby will have two mistakes as innocious as these against Salford but if he scores two tries has an assist, runs 200+ meters makes a superb 1on1 cover tackle as well as countless tackle busts doubt the posters on Redvee will be singling out minor indescretions.

None of the tries yesterday against us directly attributable to Dufty plenty to critque from yesterday but for me duftys performance isn't one.

The Bullock situation confuses me, could hardly get in the team Burgess says he needs to work on things and is in and out of the team. Then he gets a contract extension hmm.

Only just won even with them losing 3 players, not great by any means at all. But the win and next week off might be the reset we need.
Max wood for me deserves a bench spot every week, Bullock to drop out and Crowther back in if he's fit come the next round.
Fitzgibbon back in as well, but will be a shame to drop Holroyd, but i bet he's buzzing with the amount of game time he's had already this season, as i bet he didn't think he would play half the games he has already.
I hope the next few weeks clicks us back in to gear and we hit tge ground running again.
And i hope we have a new prop lined up for next year.....although i do feel that's what Yates is coming in for.
Aaron Pene for leigh looks an absolute handful, they've done well picking him up

You mention Vaughan who doesn't look half as effective as when he first came . Is he injured or has he just bought into the psyche of the Warrington club ? Going with the flow ?