We could help wakey out by signing him and loaning him back for a season till Waterhouse completes his contract??

Think Kirmond has been billed as "untouchable" if players are being released.

Rightly so, our captain and has been quality all round. Would be a good signing for any SL team but I'm thankful the wakefield chairman (new) realises his importance to the club and team.

Cant believe this, do you guys not watch the same games I watch!!, Waterhouse is a very very important defender for us, lots of his work is done for the team. I would bet he would walk into any other SL team. He is imo an essential cog in how we play.

So, what you are saying, is he's an important defender for us.
That's a basic for ANY RL player.
You tackle properly, you've done the job.
You follow team orders, you've done the job.
Yes, Waterhouse carries these tasks out admirably. Has he done this whilst "setting the world alight", and justifying his (I'd imagine) large salary? I'm yet to be fully convinced.

Waterhouse is an awesome defender, plus he takes so much pressure off the front row, it take 3/4 defenders to take him down

Every single player in the team is a very very important defender for us.

Just like in every other rugby league team.

He's also kind to animals, loves his mum and sees old ladies over the road.

Pretty much every player gets taken down by 3 or 4 defenders each time they get the ball.... The gang tackle is rugby league standard now.... If you are suggesting that he is so powerful it takes 4 men to get him to the ground you are very much mistaken.

Saints winger smashed him the other week.

I think he is a fabulous defender.. But with the ball he isn't destructive at all and in my opinion he doesn't seem to get through enough work.... That's probably down to how I like my players though.... That's why I like players like Westwood and Kirmond so much.

True, I'd be more then happy and would welcome the addition of kirmond, especially if Waterhouse doesn't stay after next year, could be an even better player with a stronger team around him!

Whilst this thread is about Kirmond, like others on here the title means nothing after a page or two.
Waterhouse is a great player who just chills and walks around at his leisure. He is great in the big games and is very reliable. People only see what they want to see. There have been people on here giving Briefs,Hodgson, Myler and even Rhys Williams grief on here.

Not really that strange that a thread about us signing a back rower should get onto who he could possibly replace is it?

Bit of a non starter anyway now as the Wakefield owner has rubbished the rumour.

Have you seen the thread on the Wakefield board about their mascot? Poor Daddy Cool went down to his undies apparently. Left his head on the pitch.

Correct. I thought most people knew that.

I think he does all of the above consistently well, you know exactly what your going to get when he walks on the field. I would also think as one of our more mature players especially with his background in the NRL he has a big influence on some of the younger kids.
Meet him last year on the way to Hull think it was and we had a fair conversation, he is so laid back he is almost horizontal !but he was very knowledgeable and spoke well.
Do agree and can understand why people think he is lazy but when you watch him closely you see how he organises those around him.

Waterhouse reminds me of the bloke who answers the phone on the Fosters gold advert. Chilled and relaxed.

I'd rather stick with Ben Currie.

A chilled fosters and a hot Currie does it for me!

As good as Waterhouse is he was billed as this awesome running forward who could bust a tackle and release the ball. We're all thinking "my god somebody has found another Mark Roberts", but no we got somebody with no line speed at all.

Now he is very good at defending and as said "so he should be" its a prerequisite. He can and does score trys. Barnstorming, line busting runs well maybe they're just around the corner.

The real question for me is, would you rather have Louis Anderson? I would.

Louis Anderson was a liability in defence....He'd charge out of the defensive line seeking the big hit, which rarely came off, leaving the opposition with an instant overlap.

yes

After reading this thread it appears some fans would be overjoyed if the wakefield owner rang up moran tomorrow and offered kirmond in a straight swap for waterhouse and we accepted it. Unbelievable!!

what a bargain that would be!
A straight swap for a player of quality and with scope for further improvement still in his twenties for a player who....well,...isn't!

I'd be delighted to see Kirmond at the HJ....He must be the toughest geezer in the game. I may even renew my season ticket.

Waterhouse by a country mile. I enjoyed watching Louis but Waterhouse is a different level of class and experience. I'd be quite happy to see Louis back here as an interchange forward though.