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| 4 RL clubs in Scotland is better than 0.
At least it's a start, they should be helped with setting up new clubs as has happend in London, where while the professional club isn't doing too well, the amateur game is.
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| Quote ="Dezzies_right_hook"Great Britain, Australia new zealand andvpng France or another international side with maybe a tournament to qualify as 4th team orca best of the rest team? ?
Continuity is key, as is success, win this or the world cup then there will be interest in the sport, unfortunately I doubt that the rfl will capitalise on that success let alone have anything in place for a tournament win'"
Id like to see England, Aus, NZ, France and PNG involved in every tournament with the 6th nation left to qualify.
Those five countries all have strong domestic leagues and have the potential to be competitive in internationals.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"4 RL clubs in Scotland is better than 0.
At least it's a start, they should be helped with setting up new clubs as has happend in London, where while the professional club isn't doing too well, the amateur game is.'"
I think you misunderstood my point. No-one would reasonably denounce the formation of a RL club.
My point was aimed at the artificial, rootless, construction of a representative side of the country where the vast majority of the players involved were not born there. But the most telling fact is that very few people in those countries have any interest whatsoever in the game or those that represent them.
Hence you end up with the unedifying spectacle of watching home nations players who could not make the England side, play a meaningless game in which they are bound to lose, unless they play each other, in front of a derisory crowd and press indifference.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I think you misunderstood my point. No-one would reasonably denounce the formation of a RL club.
My point was aimed at the artificial, rootless, construction of a representative side of the country where the vast majority of the players involved were not born there. But the most telling fact is that very few people in those countries have any interest whatsoever in the game or those that represent them.
Hence you end up with the unedifying spectacle of watching home nations players who could not make the England side, play a meaningless game in which they are bound to lose, unless they play each other, in front of a derisory crowd and press indifference.'"
I would wager a bet...if your an England RL supporter, your father was not Scottish!
Likewise at club level, if I was born and raised in Wigan and my father was Wire born and bred, I wouldn't be chanting Wergun Wergun at the Piedome for sure.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I would wager a bet...if your an England RL supporter, your father was not Scottish!
Likewise at club level, if I was born and raised in Wigan and my father was Wire born and bred, I wouldn't be chanting Wergun Wergun at the Piedome for sure.'"
Not sure you choose your club I think your club chooses you.
My Dad is a Wigan supporter born and raised in Platt Bridge.
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| Quote ="mark_m"
My Dad is a Wigan supporter born and raised in Platt Bridge.'"
There goes the old adage [i[uyou can chose your friends, but you can't chose your family.[/u[/i
mark_m, you have my sympathy
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| .....And Italy defeat Russia in Leigh ! You couldn't make it up.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Not sure you choose your club I think your club chooses you.
My Dad is a Wigan supporter born and raised in Platt Bridge.'"
There's always one runt in the family. You'll come back to the true church eventually.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There's always one runt in the family. You'll come back to the true church eventually.
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So that's why Italy played Russia in Leigh! I hear the church by Italy have never heard of Wigan.
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| Well that game OZ v NZ was superb.
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| and we get people on here saying how dull the NRL is..
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| Great wingers finish from Matty Russell...
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| Can't see how England will break through the Australian defence. I did like the way Bennett made it clear how dissatisfied he was with the performance though.
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| Tell you what Wayne Bennet comes across as an out-and-out [worst expletive you can think of and England are playing with the vigour and excitement of his interviews.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"Tell you what Wayne Bennet comes across as an out-and-out [worst expletive you can think of and England are playing with the vigour and excitement of his interviews.'"
Is the word you're looking for "Australian "?
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| Poor old Wayne Bennett seems not only bored with English rugby he seems bored with life. Time to move on I think.
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| He doesn't seem particularly bothered bout us to be honest, but his experience and success is undoubted and he did say before the game that were a few tests short of where he wants us to be. He knows what's needed and hopefully how to get us there.
Look whilst we're outsiders against Australia and new Zealand were a lot closer to them bow than ever, we going each game with the abiliry to win and not just there to finish third.
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| But Bennett has a point England were hopeless.
Josh Hodgson has been outstanding in the NRL but in an England shirt he cant even pass properly from dummy half. He sums up everything that is wrong with this England squad, as does Kallum Watkins to be fair.
Watkins has shown nothing and I mean nothing to earn nor retain the jersey. his club team has finished at the end of the league, he's done nothing in that team and yet he has been rewarded with an England jersey. At least Ryan Hall has the good grace to play well in his England jersey.
Sam Burgess as Captain I'm sorry but he hasn't been the same player since he got stretchered off with a neck injury midway through the NRL season.
there are just so many players not following that old adage of you're only as good as your last game. Some think they are as still as good as the pundits were saying they were last year, the year before that, or the year before that one.
Bu I'm guessing Wayne Bennett picked em so its partly his fault.
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| ...but is it partly WB's fault?
He has selected the best we have.
Can he do more?
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Great wingers finish from Matty Russell...'"
Wish we had 'im. He looks lively.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"...but is it partly WB's fault?
He has selected the best we have.
Can he do more?'"
Yes
We beat nz in previous tests and have beaten and ran Australia close recently also. He needs to bring consistency and belief to the team otherwise macbanana should have stayed n done the same job.
He is still hurting from not getting the Australia hob ans needs to get over it and focus on England.
Could he have chose better players maybe not watkins perhaps doesn't Warren a place on recent form but is the alternative any better? I was dissapointing with how he has used Clark also from the bench.
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| Are we going to get any "meaningful" rugby till the final ? Why would England bother to batter Scotland when they did what they had to do & beat them comfortably at a canter ? As for the Anzac game, why would either side go hammer & tongs when the chances are they will meet in the final ? That Anzac game ,except for ten minutes at the end, was the not much different to an average SL match & i am assuming the Aussies have a lot more in reserve for the England game & the final.
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| England should have "bothered to batter" Scotland for a very good reason ... points difference. Don't believe it was an effort problem but that there wasn't that much of a gap in ability between the teams ... which is a bit worrying.
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| Quote ="ninearches"Are we going to get any "meaningful" rugby till the final ? Why would England bother to batter Scotland when they did what they had to do & beat them comfortably at a canter ? As for the Anzac game, why would either side go hammer & tongs when the chances are they will meet in the final ? That Anzac game ,except for ten minutes at the end, was the not much different to an average SL match & i am assuming the Aussies have a lot more in reserve for the England game & the final.'"
Smh if we did not beat Scotland convincingly and Australia beat nz only just then even if we beat Australia we will not get to the final as nz will easily score the amount needed to get to final, every game in the 4n is meaningfull!!
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