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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"We could lose the next 20 games on the trot and I'd still go. Don't give me that rubbsih about going if they showed effort. If you don't want to go because you're fed up then just don't go. It's great to be a martyr, isn't it? Ooh, I'm not going to here, there or wherever. Oooh, I'm not getting a season ticket. Oh, whoopy do.'"
As you're usually one of the more sensible contributors on here, I'm not sure whether you're being entirely serious or not.
Would you really still go if they lost the next 20 games?
Even if those 20 games were in the same manner as the Harlequins game?
If so, I'd question who were the martyrs were.
Is it really those who have had enough, or perhaps those who will continue to attend matches completely regardless of what's being served up on the pitch?
I can sort of understand a mindset of not being bothered about Johnny-Come-Lately fans, but what should be sounding alarm bells, to anyone with even a passing interest in the club, is the number of long-term fans who have reached the end of their tether.
I'll give you an example. I and a group of old pals, all life-long Warrington fans/supporters (whatever the definition of those is on here today), who now live throughout the North regularly meet up at a Warrington game.
We've started to arrange our next meet and it's looking likely that a walk up Snowdon is the preferred option rather than attending a match!
This isn't just a dodgy couple of performances. This is the first time in 130 years we've lost 10 games on the run.
I do have confidence that Tony Smith will turn things around and it wouldn't actually surprise me if the prospect of a Wembley appearance finally entices 100% effort from the players.
However, until that 100% effort is displayed on a regular basis, "Whoopy Doo", I'll be merely a distant observer.
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| What would people describe as a glory hunter?
Would it be people who only attend when we are winning?
Whilst I know the current situation is pretty dire at the moment, if this was Saints or Leeds or Wigan, and their crowds dropped because of defeats (whatever the circumstances) they would be getting stick for having glory hunters.
I'm not having a go at anyone for not going, that is your choice, and people have different priorities, but the reason that I and others will go irrespective, is not due to being a martyr, it's due to the supporting them through thick and thin point.
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| Quote ="The Riddler"As you're usually one of the more sensible contributors on here, I'm not sure whether you're being entirely serious or not.
Would you really still go if they lost the next 20 games?
Even if those 20 games were in the same manner as the Harlequins game?
If so, I'd question who were the martyrs were.
Is it really those who have had enough, or perhaps those who will continue to attend matches completely regardless of what's being served up on the pitch?
I can sort of understand a mindset of not being bothered about Johnny-Come-Lately fans, but what should be sounding alarm bells, to anyone with even a passing interest in the club, is the number of long-term fans who have reached the end of their tether.
I'll give you an example. I and a group of old pals, all life-long Warrington fans/supporters (whatever the definition of those is on here today), who now live throughout the North regularly meet up at a Warrington game.
We've started to arrange our next meet and it's looking likely that a walk up Snowdon is the preferred option rather than attending a match!
This isn't just a dodgy couple of performances. This is the first time in 130 years we've lost 10 games on the run.
I do have confidence that Tony Smith will turn things around and it wouldn't actually surprise me if the prospect of a Wembley appearance finally entices 100% effort from the players.
However, until that 100% effort is displayed on a regular basis, "Whoopy Doo", I'll be merely a distant observer.'" i go pretty much every game but i've had enough the defeats don't bother me its the manner in which they are inflicted no heart,no passion,no effort i can't bring my self to go i may change my mind who knows who cares but it doesn't not make me a fan
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| Quote ="The Riddler"I can sort of understand a mindset of not being bothered about Johnny-Come-Lately fans, but what should be sounding alarm bells, to anyone with even a passing interest in the club, is the number of long-term fans who have reached the end of their tether.
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I agree with that. I am shocked at some of the people who are not going (or threatening not to). But that wasn't my point. It is the almost bragging way that, for example, Les Boyd is God comes on here and let's us all know he's not going. That's what made me go Whoopy Do.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"I agree with that. I am shocked at some of the people who are not going (or threatening not to). But that wasn't my point. It is the almost bragging way that, for example, Les Boyd is God comes on here and let's us all know he's not going. That's what made me go Whoopy Do.'" read the title of the thread
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| It doesn't make any difference to my point.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"It doesn't make any difference to my point.'" the point of the thread is to see who has had enough of this debarcle because they were bad yesterday weren't they
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| I'm sure they were; I only listened to it on the radio. However, to go back to my point, even if we lose for the next five years (yes Riddler, I am probably mad), I'll still probably go for the following week. Imagine that time you win! And if I decided not to go, I'd not shout about it from the rooftops.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"I'm sure they were; I only listened to it on the radio. However, to go back to my point, even if we lose for the next five years (yes Riddler, I am probably mad), I'll still probably go for the following week. Imagine that time you win! And if I decided not to go, I'd not shout about it from the rooftops.'" understand where your comin from but like someone else said on here if others realise fans are stayin away others will follow we need to talk with our feet mate i think most feel robbed who went yesterday at least dick turpin had the decentcy to wear a mask so you knew you was being robbed
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| no matter how bad they are, they are always going to be my team and not going doesn't solve anything
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| Quote ="the original stevo"understand where your comin from but like someone else said on here if others realise fans are stayin away others will follow we need to talk with our feet mate i think most feel robbed who went yesterday at least dick turpin had the decentcy to wear a mask so you knew you was being robbed'"
What they gonna do if we all don't go? Sign international players and a world class coach?
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| Quote ="Lefty"Tough poop.'" i have been watching the wire for 30 years, so if i don,t go next week because i can,t afford it i,m not a real fan,get real there is a recession on, people have got better things to spend there money on like bills.the only reason me and my family are going now is because we have a family season ticket. otherwise we would not be going.stop being so arrogant it does not matter if you go and watch them live or listen to the results on teletext your still a fan. it all comes down to money and why waste your hard earned cash on a bunch of superstars who don,t give a toss.
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| Well this a right snobbery battle of fans, [i'I'm going even if we play crap for the next 5 years which means i am the superior fan'[/i . Well congratulations, pick up your primrose and blue rosette at the office. Lets all turn up muttering to ourselves how bad things are whilst handing our cash over, after all it's the british way of doing things. Or do we voice our concerns and go further by keeping hold of our cash, as it is after all our disposable income we are using, set aside for entertainment purposes. If an individual decides that watching his/her team playing without commitment isn't enough for them to make time and pay the price, should we look down on them?
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| No! And how many times do I have to say it? It's not the not going that bothers me. It's up to the individual. It's the crowing about it as though it makes them morally superior.
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| Quote ="gary numan"Well this a right snobbery battle of fans, [i'I'm going even if we play crap for the next 5 years which means i am the superior fan'[/i . Well congratulations, pick up your primrose and blue rosette at the office. Lets all turn up muttering to ourselves how bad things are whilst handing our cash over, after all it's the british way of doing things. Or do we voice our concerns and go further by keeping hold of our cash, as it is after all our disposable income we are using, set aside for entertainment purposes. If an individual decides that watching his/her team playing without commitment isn't enough for them to make time and pay the price, should we look down on them?'" I don't think anybody is attacking anyone for their choice of not going.
Quite the opposite in fact. Often 'we' get attacked for being martyrs or having our head in the sand.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"No! And how many times do I have to say it? It's not the not going that bothers me. It's up to the individual. It's the crowing about it as though it makes them morally superior.'" Well it is an internet forum, without discussion it would be nothing. I'm sure the topic was started to vent some anger which he's decided to act upon and to see if anybody else felt the same and was considering the same action.
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| I'm not going. I've had enough and under no circumstances will I be stepping foot in the HJ again until there is a dramatic improvement in the attitude of the team.
And I'll stick with that decision until Thursday or Friday when I'll reluctantly venture to the shop for a ticket and by Sunday morning I will have convinced myself that things can only get better and it will start that afternoon.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"I'm not going. I've had enough and under no circumstances will I be stepping foot in the HJ again until there is a dramatic improvement in the attitude of the team.
And I'll stick with that decision until Thursday or Friday when I'll reluctantly venture to the shop for a ticket and by Sunday morning I will have convinced myself that things can only get better and it will start that afternoon.'" well they can,t get any worse.got to start winning sometime,but for the live of me i don,t no when..
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| Quote ="Thelonius"I'm not going. I've had enough and under no circumstances will I be stepping foot in the HJ again until there is a dramatic improvement in the attitude of the team.
And I'll stick with that decision until Thursday or Friday when I'll reluctantly venture to the shop for a ticket and by Sunday morning I will have convinced myself that things can only get better and it will start that afternoon.'"
I honestly believed that it would start to get better before the leeds game and thought we were unlucky not to get something from that.
After listening to comments about yesterdays game, i'm beginning to have my doubts.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"I'm sure they were; I only listened to it on the radio. However, to go back to my point, even if we lose for the next five years (yes Riddler, I am probably mad), I'll still probably go for the following week. Imagine that time you win! And if I decided not to go, I'd not shout about it from the rooftops.'"
and why did`nt you go....listen im going on SUNDAY..but after 27 years of watching the wire i throw the towel in this is the worst team ive watched....they r taking the p or do you just not get my point....come back when you reach 20 years of age..sense will prevail
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"and why did`nt you go....listen im going on SUNDAY..but after 27 years of watching the wire i throw the towel in this is the worst team ive watched....they r taking the p or do you just not get my point....come back when you reach 20 years of age..sense will prevail'"
dude, he's about 60.
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"dude, he's about 60.'" ..
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| hey im coming to warrington next week i arnt going to see your fans fighting with each other am i because thats all your doing on hear your team is paying rubbish and your arguining with each other. get a grip lads its a sport the players will no there self they are playing ttttte.
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| Quote ="HKR Tribal"hey im coming to warrington next week i arnt going to see your fans fighting with each other am i because thats all your doing on hear your team is paying rubbish and your arguining with each other. get a grip lads its a sport the players will no there self they are playing ttttte.
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