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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Id rather Saints do 4 than Wigan win. Salford looking the most dangerous at the minute though.'"
As ever, I'd support an Alien Invasion XIII or even the England RU team* if they were up against Wigan.
*Carling, Guscott, Underwoods vintage
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Settle down there trigger happy, I was referring to the stupid statement of Powell, if he indeed did say it, and that it was stupid as he couldn’t back it up with evidence that he could or has done it himself.'"
So the following was directed at Powell and not me??
Quote ="Barbed Wire"If you’re going to say something like that (if it is true) then you need to be able to back it up, otherwise it’s misplaced arrogance. It’s antagonist without having a point to make. I’m not asking for kid gloves, but if you’re going to say something stupid, back it up.
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Let's not make the hole bigger.
Let's move back on topic, all forgotten as far as I'm concerned now - it's a passionate topic.
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| Serious question chaps. Given Powell's strange set of interviews do you still think Cooper, king and Charnley were really bad eggs. I know Powell always gives strange interviews but even for him his recent ones have been slapdash. Reading between his very tainted lines it sounds to me he is telling Moran 'please don't sack me, it will come good next year' He has put himself on a high spandau by keeping claiming that he is building something 'big' he had better deliver for his own sake. How long does he get next season. Clean slate and all that with his team.
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| I’m out of popcorn
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| Quote ="just_browny"As ever, I'd support an Alien Invasion XIII or even the England RU team* if they were up against Wigan.
*Carling, Guscott, Underwoods vintage'"
I think we were once linked with Carling, rumoured to be for a £400000 transfer fee. We'd have probably ended up with a 4 pack given our transfer negotiations.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"Serious question chaps. Given Powell's strange set of interviews do you still think Cooper, king and Charnley were really bad eggs. I know Powell always gives strange interviews but even for him his recent ones have been slapdash. Reading between his very tainted lines it sounds to me he is telling Moran 'please don't sack me, it will come good next year' He has put himself on a high spandau by keeping claiming that he is building something 'big' he had better deliver for his own sake. How long does he get next season. Clean slate and all that with his team.'"
If you suffer from insomnia, try reading the "Powell Out" thread, all 78 pages, and still growing.
Happy reading.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"So the following was directed at Powell and not me??
Let's not make the hole bigger.
Let's move back on topic, all forgotten as far as I'm concerned now - it's a passionate topic.'"
Read it following on from the post that you replied to, you’ll quite clearly make out that it is in regard to Powell’s alleged comment to Cooper, hence the “if true” statement as it’s all speculation at this stage. Unless you have any experience of winning super league titles, or having antagonistic conversations with former Warrington props about how they haven’t won a super league title, it can’t possibly be aimed at you.
Still, if you’d prefer to turn this into another woe is me event, lead on.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Read it following on from the post that you replied to, you’ll quite clearly make out that it is in regard to Powell’s alleged comment to Cooper, hence the “if true” statement as it’s all speculation at this stage. Unless you have any experience of winning super league titles, or having antagonistic conversations with former Warrington props about how they haven’t won a super league title, it can’t possibly be aimed at you.
Still, if you’d prefer to turn this into another woe is me event, lead on.'"
What a plonker (me). I thought you were having another pop - I'm kind of used to it with my Powell stance. It's all good anyhow as I said in my last post, even if you did insult me, which you didn't. Apologies again.
I think I really am morphing into Powell if I'm taking his criticism personally.
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| Its becoming clearer and clearer that the bad apple is Powell
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| Quote ="Gazwire"I think we were once linked with Carling, rumoured to be for a £400000 transfer fee. We'd have probably ended up with a 4 pack given our transfer negotiations.'"
We would pay the £400k then loan him out.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"Serious question chaps. Given Powell's strange set of interviews do you still think Cooper, king and Charnley were really bad eggs. I know Powell always gives strange interviews but even for him his recent ones have been slapdash. Reading between his very tainted lines it sounds to me he is telling Moran 'please don't sack me, it will come good next year' He has put himself on a high spandau by keeping claiming that he is building something 'big' he had better deliver for his own sake. How long does he get next season. Clean slate and all that with his team.'"
Next year will 100% show whether it was Powell, or the players being the divas who didn't want to do what they were told.
Apart from needing a new centre and a new half we have an awesome looking squad next year. So if after 6 games we look as bad as this year, it will 100% be Powell that's the problem.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Next year will 100% show whether it was Powell, or the players being the divas who didn't want to do what they were told.
Apart from needing a new centre and a new half we have an awesome looking squad next year. So if after 6 games we look as bad as this year, it will 100% be Powell that's the problem.'"
Exactly, time will tell.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Next year will 100% show whether it was Powell, or the players being the divas who didn't want to do what they were told.
Apart from needing a new centre and a new half we have an awesome looking squad next year. So if after 6 games we look as bad as this year, it will 100% be Powell that's the problem.'"
Imo, we need to see shoots of green over those first 6 games and not expect too much. In all honesty though, I'd be genuinely worried if we looked like we do now after those 6. I'm halfway house over those 6 games but I still think we need to back him till at least the playoffs and see the structures working. With those new incoming forwards, I'm being optimistic. It'll give our backs some space to develop the moves.
I still have faith in Powell, though it's tough - we have been bloody awful this season. I'm going to do a Duckie here and stick my neck out:
We'll win the GF next year!!
Woolf gone, probs Wellens to take over
French off to NRL and Wigan will have their tails cut in the back line.
Nostradamus: things won't get together until June, July, August time. By then, we'll be in with a shout. We'll have scraped into the playoffs, but we'll be capable of playing some rugby to get us through. We'll be contenders if we make the playoffs.
(I've had a few pints)
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| Quote ="Gazwire"Imo, we need to see shoots of green over those first 6 games and not expect too much. In all honesty though, I'd be genuinely worried if we looked like we do now after those 6. I'm halfway house over those 6 games but I still think we need to back him till at least the playoffs and see the structures working. With those new incoming forwards, I'm being optimistic. It'll give our backs some space to develop the moves.
I still have faith in Powell, though it's tough - we have been bloody awful this season. I'm going to do a Duckie here and stick my neck out:
We'll win the GF next year!!
Woolf gone, probs Wellens to take over
French off to NRL and Wigan will have their tails cut in the back line.
Nostradamus: things won't get together until June, July, August time. By then, we'll be in with a shout. We'll have scraped into the playoffs, but we'll be capable of playing some rugby to get us through. We'll be contenders if we make the playoffs.
(I've had a few pints)'"
I'm 100% behind Powell, i've seen what he did for Castleford with the right squad and structures, culture etc
The whole "we're to big of a club for him to handle" is utter nonsense from what other people have said. A good coach is a good coach. A bad culture and players thinking they're too good to do what there boss is asking them to do is the problem. There's a big turnover next year and some big experienced professional players coming it. Josh McGuire being one of them, ultimate professional who will run through brick walls like Benny Westwood used to. He won't take crap and will give it his all over here, i can see him and Dufty being Co-captains for us next year.
I'm so excited for next year......just worried about Centre and halfback. If we get them right i 100% genuinely think we will be the team to beat next year.
One game left though so anymore more announcements can't be too far away olayer wise, although the world cup might delay anymore Signings being announced if any?
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| Nice contribution from Mike tonight, basically waved O'Connor over the line and turned the tide against Wigan. Still, what an honour for him to play for a club like Wigan.
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| Maybe just maybe Powell was right about Cooper. He looks like a fish out of water
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| Quote ="RoyalWire"Maybe just maybe Powell was right about Cooper. He looks like a fish out of water'"
Four years on the bounce Cooper has been eliminated from the play-offs at home.
At least he is consistent.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Four years on the bounce Cooper has been eliminated from the play-offs at home.
At least he is consistent.'"
And Briers as assistant coach.
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| He still ended with a much better year than we did, he played ok and nothing else to say. I wish him all the best and i'm not about to just start taking the Piss out of him.
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| What Mike contributed for Wigan could be wrote on the back of a stamp, glad he’s gone.
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| What Mike contributed for Wigan could be wrote on the back of a stamp, glad he’s gone.
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| Quote ="Or thane"He still ended with a much better year than we did, he played ok and nothing else to say. I wish him all the best and i'm not about to just start taking the mickey out of him.'"
He won as much as we did.
Good luck to him? He literally forced a move through to our main rivals mid season just because Powell wanted him to stay behind a few times and subsequently he couldn't sell his bobble hats.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"He won as much as we did.
Good luck to him? He literally forced a move through to our main rivals mid season just because Powell wanted him to stay behind a few times and subsequently he couldn't sell his bobble hats.'"
Well that’s one way of looking at it I suppose.
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| I have no issue with him, but I wasn't sorry to see him go either. Same applies to Hill. We don't miss Hill and Cooper. We miss Morley and Carvell.
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