I don't think there is much super fan crap. I think a lot of it is tongue in cheek.

Not as much lately, much more when we were performing poorly. There is still an undercurrent.

Point taken, ANCW, that was just me blowing a gasket at some of the people who come on here saying what good fans they are and dissing everyone else. Like you, no doubt, I love my Wire.

I'm not so sure.

I go to Quins home games sometimes but will never change allegiance im Wire through and through and if i could do the same job for the same pay i'd more back to the Northwest in a heartbeat.

Unfortunately life dictates that wire don't always come first in my life.
The main reason i actually come on this forum is homesickness and banter with like minded people which i don't get down here.

Football football football and on the odd occasion when i say "no, rugby is my sport" i get the usual "how do you think England will do in the 5 nations?"
bloody union

Can I just point out for the hard of understanding that my comments were a joke at the expense of my good friend and professional monkey hangar Mr A.

And with regard to Smiths comments, I would hope he does spend 80% of his time working on the mental side of the game as realistically these are elite players and everything else should surely be in place. It has always been a problem with Warrington players that they can but don't.

Mark. I'm well aware that you were joking. By the way it's Monkey Hanger. Ask him to tell you the full story sometime. Hartlepool FC have a Monkey Mascot called H'Angus.

Typo error; I have made it sound like a storage facility for simians.

The original H'Angus became the elected Mayor for Hartlepool on the basis of an election promise of free Bananas for all Schoolkids. He gets a rather nice salary too.

then you would be wrong you dont know nothing about me iv been supporting the wire since i was 5 and im now 27. and yes i was there.

Following on from Teeside Wire, and for the avoidance of doubt, none of my posts on this thread were in relation to yours. As I am equally sure your "hard of understanding" jibe wasn't in relation to one of mine.

I don't go to any squadbuilder/supporters trust/players forum things yet i've been to every game this year bar one, and the same sort of attendance for the past 11 years. Where does that put me?

A Wire fan, like the rest of us.

Why are you spouting crap then ? you must have seen by the ages of the people who attended that they were of an era that included Wilderspool ,before you ask yes i did go to Wembley in 74,75 and 90 so I too have been going for a few years there were a few kids there and a smattering of teens but I think your comments were out of order and disrespectful to the people whom attended no matter what age !

OK, so we've now ascertained that Spirit and '74 and Bombhead Wire have been watching for a while. Now can they both put the Teddy's back in the Cot and get off to sleep?

Ah, the old fan/supporter debate. Not seen one for a while. The one thing you are guaranteed with this type of thread is that it starts with great debating, but then turns into silly bickering.

Perfectally put, even though ive been watching them for 9 years

i dont mean to be disrespectful to anyone it just gets to me when we have these so called fans that have been watchin the wire five mins and there booing and shouting abuse cullen out and all that.

also how thay now jump on coz theres possiblitly of us getting silverwear maybe its just me i dont know but it just gets to me i see it as glory hunting. thats just the way it is i suppose.

Its not that easy fella. What about those like me with lots of years in, who have started to go a bit more often now under Smith, and wanted Cullen out and stayed away a bit more when I was disenfranchised. Am I a glory hunter?

We need Glory Hunters anyway, how else will we get to fill the corners in.

I have no issue at all with "glory hunters". If we have glory to hunt, great.

i was reading jamie peacock's biog last month, he did a section on the fanatics/supporters angle, and he's not a big admirer of the fantatic, the ones who are happy to criticize and appear to be waiting for the opportunity to do so, i think.

Interesting. I guess as times there can be a conflict of interests between supporting the club and those that wear the shirt at times.

When I was younger I always thought the players loved the club as much as I did/do. Now I realise that isnt always the case.

I think Jamie's got that from Smith.

well i can see that people dont want to go and watch a team that doesnt want to play like we have seen in the past but its like smith said lastnight supports are people that stick with the team through the hard times and fans only go when its good times. i dont know you personaly so i couldnt say. im sure you was there through the hard times at wilderspool and some of them at the hj and you had had enougth.

yeah suppose your right that we need people jumping on otherwise we wont get a full house.

just makes me wonder if we get to wembley where have all our supporters been coz im sure we will take alot more than the hj holds.