They shouldn't get any time off these next 2 weeks, they need to be training and training. If i see players having another week off on holiday or camping i'll lose my mind.

I know it would only Upset the apple cart more but I'd be pulling the England squad players

We’re obviously not getting rid. We are purchasing players I presume on his call.

For me it’s Karl Fitzpatrick fault. He had a ready made replacement in Paul Anderson ( a league leader winner with not a standout team at Huddersfield) who either didn’t want it or was deemed not good enough by Fitzpatrick.
Anderson is the guy who brought Our youngsters through and no wonder he decided to up sticks and bail out.

We have players currently deserving an International jersey?

Well it’s a good time to sack a coach. Or if the coach is as good as some think then more quality time with him will have an effect.

The next time we lace up boots it will be over 2 calendar months since our last win, something has to change to arrest that momentum.

But, 16 gone, 12 to go, only 5 wins. Not acceptable, lost to Wakefield 3 times (no disrespect, but they would kill for the squad we have - on paper) and had another 30 points out on us. Change has to happen, what that change is is up to the board, but it’s not working out, not going in the right direction and not showing green shoots of hope. There is NOTHING

They have downed tools for the club completely. Professional players with no pride whatsoever. Powell takes some responsibility because he doesn't have to choose them and continually looks past Dean and longstaff but realistically the players just don't care, the defensive attitude shows that. I expected this season to be a write off but this is appalling, way worse than I could have imagined.

The group of players are capable. They are, but for one major omission (Hill) the same group plus some additions of the new regime. The previous regime got them organised and robust, although not entertaining. We were difficult to break down but we couldn’t capitalise on good field position, we could get to the line just not over it.

Now we are rag tag defensively, passive in the middle and porous on the edges. Going forward we do have a bit of pace in the team, Wrench, Ashton and Widdop when they have room look likely, but we can’t execute it really.

We have gone backwards, we look visibly fatigued at the back end of halves (conceded on 38 and 77 today I think), our defence is disoriented, it’s just a shambles.

Price’s stock goes up with every game.

I can only guess that there has been a total breakdown in the relationship between coaching staff and players, either due to personalities, methods, regime or all of the above.

I no longer buy the bad egg theory as the sole cause, since one of the players named as such continues to.put in strong perfoemances. If there genuinely are disruptive influences in the dresssing room.well, we'll be stuck with a few still next year.

But we've reached a watershed moment. Whether this group of players and coaches are capable of pulling together and delivering results is now highly questionable.

Those that are saying its not powell's fault or let's give him until this time next season...what is it you're seeing that makes you think it's suddenly going to turn around and get better? Do you really think changing a few players for next season is going to be the answer?

Surely a good coach should be able to work with what he's got first and get the best out of his squad before gradually changing personnel and evolving. If there were signs of something like a style of play, or if he was developing a few of the kids with game time, then maybe you could say OK let's see where this is going, but so far after signing some players he wanted, a full preseason and half a season it's just dross after dross with no signs of anything and no answers. The highlight being we did a bit better against saints. I think like Roy Hodgson was at Liverpool, he just isn't the right man for the job.

And I'm not saying some of the players aren't blameless, however it's down to the coach to manage players attitudes and if their attitudes are bad they shouldn't be picked - simple

It's very Wigan 2006...

Hopefully we’ll cheat the salary cap and get out of it then!

Genuinely who on earth have we got called up for International duty? There’s absolutely NONE deserve it.

I was on the side of giving time.
However Cooper going , Clark looking hopeless . A whole team that can’t or won’t defend.
Powell out.

I think this must be the reason. So double down on Powell or pander to the sulking nearly men...?

We are now so far down the rabbit hole with Powell that it’s not easy to see a way out. By the sound of it he has told the bulk of the side they are not wanted yet continues to have to rely on them until the end of the season. Despite being told originally that he has a good track record at producing young players he has shown little or no interest in playing them. Quite how Dean Thewlis Longstaff feel I have no idea

The overall thinking is now so muddled it is not clear what happens next. Sack Powell and next years recruitment becomes even more difficult to understand. Would a replacement want those players?

And so the cycle begins again.

I just don’t understand this Powell as saviour of Warrington view from some fans. Sure, he had some success at Cas but over the last couple of years there the teams performance was poor – 17 wins in 2 years which has continued here with 5 this season. He has never won one of the major trophies. He had some success with Cas over ten years ago. The game and players have changed.
So he is the man who is going to lead us to a golden dynasty for the club? If you think so that says more about your faith than judgement. The game has passed him by and he isn’t going to catch up any time soon if at all.
There are many on here slating the players, perhaps some of this is justified, I don’t know I am not close enough to judge, BUT, Powel is the coach. It is his responsibility to get the best from each and every player, to combine together and deliver to the best of their ability, weeding out those who the club can dispense with. His priority is to deliver a winning team consistently from when he arrived and to develop the playing group and standards – skills, attitudes, culture on an ongoing basis for the future. He hasn’t done this. He hasn’t managed the transition from what he started with to how he wants the team to play. His attitude on arrival seems to have been do it my way and not listen to his players.
The team’s performance is getting worse, individual performances are worse, the playing group worse, the culture worse. Next year’s sale of season tickets and sponsorships will be a hard sell. Crowds are down, and we have a Coach who thinks we are in a good position.
Wake up fans, have some guts and say the club got it wrong taking on Mr Powell and his coaching team, they have shown no sign of improving our club, in fact it is getting worse. Directors, shake hands with them bid them goodbye, they may even be relieved to get away if they are honest.
Use internal resources between now until we find a decent up to date coach, this experiment has been and continues to be a disaster.

If we were guaranteed 11th this season(this is how low we've sunk!)I would stick with Powell when half of this rabble have gone. But unfortunately the threat of relegation is as real as 2002 and he might have to go.

You may be right but point of correction, Powell took Castleford to league leaders shield in 2017 and the GF when Tony Smith and a good number of our players (currie, cooper, philbin, clark, king, ratchford etc) were underperforming again in the middle 8s. He also got to a CC final last year. Thats fairly recent.

A poor coach doesnt make a GF on sub cap spend.

There is an element of faith though. Some believe we have a cabal of players who simply dont give a toss about professionalism, the club, the fans, and have had it easy for years playing when they fancy it. We are hoping that Powell can overcome this.

I’m not angry.
I’m sickened, gutted.
I don’t know who to blame.

I’ve heard the stories.

Don't use the same loophole we did, they stopped you being able to do that after we showed how it could be done.

Spot on. I have no idea whether it's Powell or the players who are the problem, I just read the rumours on here, like everyone else. But enough is enough. Someone, whether it's Moran, Middleton, Fitzpatrick or whoever, needs to get everyone together, lock them in a room if necessary, and keep them there until they sort this garbage out and find a workable way forward. They are supposed to be professionals, so for God's sake start acting like it.

2017 is 5 years ago, the game has changed. Yes he got to a CC last year. He lost. So is that it, his credentials for being our saviour? I think not. He is not what we needed when Price left, and we even less now. He may be working hard but on the evidence he is not the answer. My view anyway.

Apparently, this has already happened. The week before the Salford win (did somebody say win?.... I've forgotten what one of those smelt like), we had "clear the air" talks.

Fat lot of good those turned out to be

We should have got rid of price earlier and moved for Watson when he was available IMO.

Fwiw I think Powell is a really good coach, but not the right man for Wire. He was a good fit at Cas as he was running nearly every aspect of the playing side. Warrington are guilty of ‘too many cook’s’ as are a lot of big sides……