Atkins was a great signing for us, he scored a lot of tries and got more assists than he got credit for. He came. Up with some great individual plays (ball steak at Hull for the breakaway try when we won the lls) and some monumental brain farts, the worst of which will always be Ryan Air which was rightly ridiculed! (I will be willing to accept a temporary forum ban for reminding everyone of this).

Overall a good signing and good player though he did far more good than bad.

Atkins was a good individual player and played in a good side when at his peak. It's a little bit like Martin Offiah. All he could do was run fast with a great swerve and step, but he was a legend for his try scoring record. No one really cared about the fact he didn't have the full skill set because he was making a difference with the things he could do well.

Quote ="CW8"Atkins was a great signing for us, he scored a lot of tries and got more assists than he got credit for. He came. Up with some great individual plays (ball steak at Hull for the breakaway try when we won the lls) and some monumental brain farts, the worst of which will always be Ryan Air which was rightly ridiculed! (I will be willing to accept a temporary forum ban for reminding everyone of this). Overall a good signing and good player though he did far more good than bad.'" The Ryan Air clip https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2010304375894194

Quote ="CW8"Atkins was a great signing for us, he scored a lot of tries and got more assists than he got credit for. He came. Up with some great individual plays (ball steak at Hull for the breakaway try when we won the lls) and some monumental brain farts, the worst of which will always be Ryan Air which was rightly ridiculed! (I will be willing to accept a temporary forum ban for reminding everyone of this). Overall a good signing and good player though he did far more good than bad.'" The Ryan Air clip https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2010304375894194

Quote ="Wires71"The Ryan Air clip https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2010304375894194'" Only saw this incident live from the South Stand. Price`s reaction at the end of that clip is a reflection of how we all felt at the time.

Quote ="Wires71"The Ryan Air clip https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2010304375894194'" Only saw this incident live from the South Stand. Price`s reaction at the end of that clip is a reflection of how we all felt at the time.

Atkins was a class player and at his peak as good as any centre in the league. If Toby King gets close to being as good as Atkins he'll have done well.

Quote ="Moe syslak"Atkins was a class player and at his peak as good as any centre in the league. If Toby King gets close to being as good as Atkins he'll have done well.'" Agreed. Ryan Atkins is 6th on the all time Super League top try scorers list with 186 tries. Who is 5th? Well our very own Josh Charnley with 195. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... more_tries

Quote ="Moe syslak"Atkins was a class player and at his peak as good as any centre in the league. If Toby King gets close to being as good as Atkins he'll have done well.'" Agreed. Ryan Atkins is 6th on the all time Super League top try scorers list with 186 tries. Who is 5th? Well our very own Josh Charnley with 195. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... more_tries

Quote ="Wires71"Agreed. Ryan Atkins is 6th on the all time Super League top try scorers list with 186 tries. Who is 5th? Well our very own Josh Charnley with 195. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... more_tries'" Charnley had a couple of seasons out with sale as well. He could be on for the all time record by now if he stayed? He could still get there anyway depending on how well Ryan Hall does at Hull KR and how long he plays on for. If he does well this season and Powell keeps him on then he has a chance, if he stays injury free he should be up to 3rd all time before too long this season.

Quote ="Wires71"Agreed. Ryan Atkins is 6th on the all time Super League top try scorers list with 186 tries. Who is 5th? Well our very own Josh Charnley with 195. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... more_tries'" Charnley had a couple of seasons out with sale as well. He could be on for the all time record by now if he stayed? He could still get there anyway depending on how well Ryan Hall does at Hull KR and how long he plays on for. If he does well this season and Powell keeps him on then he has a chance, if he stays injury free he should be up to 3rd all time before too long this season.

The last table I saw had him 50 tries behind Danny Maguire in first place. Charnley is only 31 mid way through 2022, he could well finish his career as the highest SL try scorer of all time given the opportunity.

Tommy Makinson by comparison has 60+ tries less than Charnley and is only 6 months younger.

Who would have makinson or charnley...makinson for me all day long

Yeah he gets away with absolutely loads at the disciplinary board too. They're both good, makinson is the best winger in superleague IMO even if he does need to get his wrists slapped (more a tickle) every now and again.

Put Charnley in that Saints side and he would have a field day, in my opinion.

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I saw that earlier Powell comes across really well. That's good social media use by the club, an improvement on the magoulias highlight reel anyway.

Hats off to the club this off season so far the fireworks and kit launch was a great idea and content like this is actually making me feel excited.

We play Leeds away Feb 12th, pretty sure it's our first match and it's the first of 10 free to air superleague match on channel 4 which is also a good move for superleague I feel. I hope we put on a good show and attract some early interest from new speccies.

Yes it is great to see the behind the scenes videos. Talk of changing systems and buying into approach. I wonder if this was a Powell initiative or the club management? Either way I am all for it. I too have a sense of optimism that we may see some nice skillful rugby at the very least.

Good to see Powell setting his stall out on that video. Obviously done for the cameras a little bit, but something different from the usual pre-season blurb.

The videos are great aren't they? I think fans really appreciate seeing the stuff that goes on behind the scenes especially with a new coach coming in and changing things around . Hopefully we'll get something on a weekly basis through preseason.

New video up showing quite a bit more of Powell's meeting with the squad. Interesting to watch - 13 minutes long too.

Excellent another good watch. I really like some of what he said there, especially the bit about appearing to be rattled in previous seasons when things go against us.

So much good stuff in that video.

- Being the most skilled team in the comp
- Controlled aggression in defence.
- Not getting rattled - how the way we finished the last 3 seasons cannot happen again.
- Being prepared
- Being elite sportsman all week
- Reading books on successful team cultures
- Improving every day / setting personal goals.

Funny thing is, this is pretty much bog standard leadership of high performance teams. It's what you should expect in a supposedly elite league. I wonder whether there is a difference to how Price worked with the players and if so how big that difference is. Suspect you'd have to ask a player off record for that one!

Yes, no one knows exactly how Price approached the psychology / non-technical side of things but you'd hope it would have been covered. The evidence is in the results though - we couldn't make it count when it mattered. As Simon Middleton quite rightly stated in the Guardian: We needed to change the whole coaching structure and some fo the playing roster to try and make a shift from that failure to succeed. Hopefully some good will come from it. Personally I feel better about the coming season than I have for a while, even though the squad may be a little weak up front. I just feel less expectation on the shoulders of a squad that is [igood enough[/i (even if it's not the very best), should put us in a good place. Guess we'll see.

Quite. I could have provided the analysis. It's the ability to make it work that matters. Whether Powell succeeds will be partly down to his ability and partly down to luck.

Made me think as Harry Callaghan said, "You’ve got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, Powell?

The videos the club have been releasing are really good. I know I am a regular moaner about the direction of the club under KF but one thing that is certainly on the up is the video content on the youtube channel.

Lots of NFL clubs have now started adopting the amazon "all or nothing" model by producing their own "inside the club" content like this and it is great at providing fans with a way to watch their team behind the scenes. I think it will also help people understand what Powell brings more than the brief snippets we see in press conferences.

It would be nice to see a weekly half hour behind the scenes, although obviously specific match tactics would be a no-go.