Really agree, and agree with other posters who've backed it. The sport needs as much positive exposure as possible, and I'm proud that my team is making waves on this front.

It's quite an advertisement as well. Having a plane fly over portrays a 'big time' event. Warrington's promotion of events this year has been outstanding. Hopefully, we'll hire the red arrows to hail our grand final success, whenever that maybe???!!!...

No Roby means you’ve got a chance. Clark is your best player by a mile so we will need to win the forward battle (shouldn’t be a problem when Walmsley and Thompson are on) or he’ll run riot. No Taia for us and Percival is a doubt as well so it’s probably your best chance to beat us. If those 3 are missing and you don’t win then I imagine the feeling between Warrington fans and players won’t be positive. I’d say we’re better in every position apart from hooker so I fancy us by 16.

Regarding the game I think we make too many errors and give away too many penalties (last week was better) to beat saints. I hope it's a good game, we need high completion and good territory to trouble them though and we have been struggling a bit on that front they're better than us at the moment but in a close game we have the key players who can win a match.

Cant see past Saints at all on Friday. Of course I hope I'm wrong. They are a cut above everyone this year, and I don't think were as good as we think we are. We are probably the 3rd best side in the league at the moment behind Saints and Hull (il leave the semi talk for a few weeks time, I think we will take a bit of a snotting personally).

Weve got pack memebers that are off the boil (obviously that can change), then again we have a bang in form Daz Clark. I havent seen much of a fluent attack for most of the year bar Hull away, and Austins individual brilliance in other games. Have we been good to be 2nd? or is it more a case of a poor league this year?

Or am i being harsh? im still and always will be a non Patton fan and I've said before, for where we want to be (i.e winning the league) this guy is not and never will be the answer (I know injuries have put him where he is). He might do a job against your Wakefields of this world, but has he we ever had a 'worldie' against a good side? Like a really good side like we will play Friday? has he pulled us out of the e when Austin has been poor? For me, not really.

I just think we are lacking something, and i cant see past Saints winning the lot, if not, there is only 1 side on current form who can stop them and thats Hull.....

Like i said, am i being harsh?

Was at the Widnes game Friday so taped the Saints game v Leeds and watched it yesterday. Saints were poor. Leeds were shocking! I’ll be taking Wire with a 4 start on Friday.

No i don't think your being Harsh at all Longbarn, i completely agree. I'd say we've just been more consistant than other teams year. We've scraped a few wins and lost some games we shouldn't have, we're definately not as good as we think we are. So far i can't remember a game where 1-17 have been brilliant, we have had good games where 2-3 players are excellent but the rest are average and that seems to be the general theme. Where as Saints are consistant across the field and all play well. That's why they're in the position they're in and i can't see us getting past them. I pray we all click at the same time at some point but i can't see it at the moment.

Saints aren’t on cruise control by any means. I was at their home game v Hull KR and they were poor. They beat Salford at home with the help of some bizarre refereeing decisions. They recently lost at London and were far from good last Friday! I know Warrington haven’t been on fire either but a home win is certainly within your grasp!

Wow... imo 'Saints by 16' tells me no chance...you must gave forgotten your 1st sentence...
So then if Roby was playing...by how many then?

Warringtons front row are better than Saints with or without Roby! Saints 2nd row are better than Warringtons. 1-5 Saints are superior. Half backs not much in it but Warrington just as Austin has the wow factor. 13 I don’t know either teams so can’t judge

If I'm honest, and it pains me to say this, I reckon it's a 32-10 job to saints, even without Roby.

Our attack doesn't seem to have a potent system where the structure and coaching out-foxes the opposition. At this moment in time, I'm struggling to see an ethos in our play which'll seriously challenge saints or Hull on form. Banging it down the middle, (excuse the term), kind of works if you have 6 heavy, fit forwards. What is disappointing so far, is that, with the quality of players we have, we seem to be shackled by playing one-dimensional rugby- which doesn't suit our players in my opinion. Our backline has, for me,has so much unlocked potential in terms of moves, like Holbrook has created, and even the much maligned Shaun Wayne. Its ok if we have ruck authority-most things will work, but we need something else. We need a complete game, a game for all seasons and all teams. We haven't at the mo. I really, really hope I'm wrong, but saints are gonna show us how it's done on Friday.

That has to be a wind up

Most people would say Saints' front row is better and fair enough but ours isn't miles behind. Cooper has been superb this season as has Clark and although an annoying captain Hill is still doing a good job. I'd say our two props had better hands and offloads but yours are a lot better at the main job of making metres. I also agree with Longbarn in that our steady Eddie approach has us 3rd best in the league and we'll get beat on Friday. I hope all that needless kicking to touch against a broken Wakefield after 60 mins last week was practise for this Friday and slowing Saints down.

No it’s my opinion. I have no reason to be biased towards either and they are all international players and all have my respect. there’s nothing in it It’s just my preference.

Without Roby, then it's probably right.

Right here as well. We've got a cracking front row, we just need a bit of fiery backup in our 11, 12 and 13.

Thompson and Walmsley are both a lot better than Hill and Cooper. Lomax and Fages is a much better partnership than Austin and Patton as well.

Patton is gash, but the combined ability of Lomax and fages still isn't enough to lace austins boots

As108, to be fair, there's a fine line between the quality of both our front rows (Roby included). Last game you dominated the ruck because of you back 3. Knowles, Lees and other were right up in our faces and our back three couldn't match, the front 3 were fairly level. It could be different this time though- Hughes and Currie would have hurt after that game- hopefully they have a point to prove.

Half back-wise, if we can gain any ruck superiority, Austin is a world apart from Lomax and anything else you have to offer at hb. Its a compliment to your pack that Lomax, though just above bang average, is effective.

Austin is nowhere near as good as you think he is. He’s only in Super League because he’s inconsistent which is why Canberra got rid and Warrington threw money at him. He comes up with some great individual moments but he goes missing for massive amounts of each game then scores a try from either a dummy or step. Lomax has been better than him this season.

Walmsley and Thompson walk into most NRL sides and are easily the top two props in Super League. I rate Cooper and Hill but they just aren’t on the same level. The idea that Lomax is just above bang average is nonsense, he’s one of only two players with 30 try involvements. No matter how good our pack is no average player comes up with those numbers at this stage of a season.

And imagine if he was consistent- bloody scary. For a bang average player, he's doing ok leading the mos rankings and being the lead try scorer. As108, please be honest, would you swap Lomax for Austin. 'Course you would. On the back of your pack, he'd have a field day.

The question is as108: Austin or Lomax? Being honest:

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Cooper has already walked in/performed at nrl level with St George.
To be honest, I'd have Coops over Thompson every time. Walmsley I do rate highly and at this point in time, has the edge over Hill. But take captaincy away, Hill is a fantastic prop. His England caps and performances will back that up. As will Cooper's, although not selected in the latest squad.

For me there isn't a lot of difference overall its the Walmsley-Hill comparison that shades it into Saints favour.

Thompson and Cooper are equal being slightly different in playing attribute, Clark is now quite capable of performing better than Roby as the latter becomes more injury prone, Walmsley and Hill goes heavy in Walmsley's favour because Hill looks tired and frustrated when things don't go his way.

I'd say he looks quiet because other teams now know hes the go to guy and teams are shutting him out the game. if we had Brown or Widdop out on the field along side him we'd be laughing. As it happens Patton isn't a world beater and goes through the motions. if there was another classy half out there alongside Austin then he'd shine week in week out i think.

It's pretty much the reason out attack stutters so much. Once Austin has been closed down the attack finishes or it goes through patton and not much happens. The lad cant do it all on his own. Lomax is world Class for me, but if he played next to Patton all season hes have days where he looks quiet an all.

Its worrying that we've not adapted to this,