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| I think they boys would have been instructed to play non risk footie for the first half at least. Jack is not likely to pass the ball in dry weather conditions, never mind a stinking day like yesterday. Good result, much improved, bring on the puddy cats next week.
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| I think we should give the Two points back
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| I hardly think saying I'll take the win while also not get carried away with beating the worst team in the competition moaning.
I've ready said I expect us to win most of the games until May.
I'll review my opinion of where we are at after the Castleford game.
We ought to be winning every game before and after that fixture. None of those are games are ones we can honestly say we've improved on from saints.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"
We ought to be winning every game before and after that fixture. None of those are games are ones we can honestly say we've improved on from saints.'"
Have I missed something here, or have we somehow reached a point where we have a God given right to win fixtures?
As has been stated before, no match in SL, especially away matches, are gimmes, especially when you are a side that was so poor in the previous season, who have a new coaching set up and who have a number of players still bedding into that previously struggling side.
A run of wins would be nice. However more realistically we should be content with seeing gradual improvement within the side, especially in attack.
I think it might be fair to say that there are a few Wire fans who seriously need to get a more realistic idea of what this season is actually about and should be lowering expectations a little.
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| Anyone thinking Wakey should be a comfortable 2 points hasn’t watched them in the last 18 months - especially as they will come off the back of a two week break pretty much.
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| Few on here get the point...
There is every reason to expect to be winning those games because the investment is at premium.
Two marquee and full cap...less 50k apparently, ought to put Warrington up there with Pies...with Leeds and Saints close up with one marquee and full cap.
It has nothing to do with God unless God is money.
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| Investment being at a premium doesn't automatically give you a right to win games. Especially when it's blatantly obvious to anybody with eyes that much of that investment as been badly spent in recent times on the recruitment side of things.
I get plenty of things by the way. Especially the obvious fact that this isn't a short term fix facing Price and Henderson.
Some people need to show a little patience. And probably a little common sense wouldn't go amiss either.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Few on here get the point...
There is every reason to expect to be winning those games because the investment is at premium.
Two marquee and full cap...less 50k apparently, ought to put Warrington up there with Pies...with Leeds and Saints close up with one marquee and full cap.
It has nothing to do with God unless God is money.'"
We only have one Marquee, and I got that from Karl Fitzpatrick, Roberts is our only marquee.
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| Bang on. Investment has been high. Return on it has been low.
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| Quote ="karetaker"We only have one Marquee, and I got that from Karl Fitzpatrick, Roberts is our only marquee.'"
When did he tell you this?
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Investment being at a premium doesn't automatically give you a right to win games. Especially when it's blatantly obvious to anybody with eyes that much of that investment as been badly spent in recent times on the recruitment side of things.
I get plenty of things by the way. Especially the obvious fact that this isn't a short term fix facing Price and Henderson.
Some people need to show a little patience. And probably a little common sense wouldn't go amiss either.'"
I think you missed my point again...
I never said...god given or any right.
I said money buys expectation.
What you said and repeated has jack to do with it.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Few on here get the point...
There is every reason to expect to be winning those games because the investment is at premium.
Two marquee and full cap...less 50k apparently, ought to put Warrington up there with Pies...with Leeds and Saints close up with one marquee and full cap.
It has nothing to do with God unless God is money.'"
If the quality of recruitment doesn’t match the money spent, blend of players isn’t right and leaders and pace are missing, quality of home grown players is lacking compared to some other clubs, coaching quality lacks creativity for scoring and runs of form are not good it doesn’t matter what amount of wages or transfer fees are spent.
Expectations should be based on what you actually see.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"If the quality of recruitment doesn’t match the money spent, blend of players isn’t right and leaders and pace are missing, quality of home grown players is lacking compared to some other clubs, coaching quality lacks creativity for scoring and runs of form are not good it doesn’t matter what amount of wages or transfer fees are spent.
Expectations should be based on what you actually see.'"
Huh?
Here's another..expectations is what you expect.... realisation is what you see!
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"He's a modern day Gary Sanderson.. Under appreciated by fans, yet coaches love him because of the work ethic they show.
Don't think he will ever have many fans on the terraces, but every side has that type of player.'"
Trent Waterhouse was the same. Ripped to shreds on the terraces around where I stand. He was an absouse machine in defence and a workhorse going forward, never shirked when it came to taking the tough balls in. They're never going to look like superstar ball playing forwards like Currie but when they're not in the team they leave a massive hole to fill.
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| Where has this business come from that we are the big spenders of Super League and have amassed a glittering squad that should be at the top?
I thought the narrative was that Price was "sorting out the mess that TS had left".
When you looked at the squad TS had left, did you think "no excuse for not winning Grand Finals with that array of superstars" or did you think "there's a bottom eight squad there, needs a lot of investment to turn around".
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Huh?
Here's another..expectations is what you expect.... realisation is what you see!'"
Yes, and only a complete balloon would be expecting us to suddenly go from a paceless shambles to a side expected to win the vast majority of our games in such a short space of time.
Some people buy a lottery ticket expecting to win.. most sensible folk buy one knowing it's very very unlikely to happen...
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Yes, and only a complete balloon would be expecting us to suddenly go from a paceless shambles to a side expected to win the vast majority of our games in such a short space of time.
Some people buy a lottery ticket expecting to win.. most sensible folk buy one knowing it's very very unlikely to happen...'"
There ought to be more balloons than 'UP' in West Yorkshire then.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"When did he tell you this?'"
Fans meeting a week ago,someone asked the question in the meeting he said we only have 1.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Fans meeting a week ago,someone asked the question in the meeting he said we only have 1.'"
Ok.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Fans meeting a week ago,someone asked the question in the meeting he said we only have 1.'"
That'll pee a couple off on here because now if strengthens my stance on expectations....not to be confused with realisation.
Wire top 4 is on again. Still I expect more from Roberts....although I realise he is improving.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"That'll pee a couple off on here because now if strengthens my stance on expectations....not to be confused with realisation.
Wire top 4 is on again. Still I expect more from Roberts....although I realise he is improving.'"
I'm sorry RD, but, this does the opposite, as the reality as reported is that we don't have two marquee signings as you previously stated, although I get the point and others do that with our investment over time we should be better placed, a reflection of the quality of the investment rather than than amount.
Far be it from me to confirm what pees off other posters (it doesn't me btw), but, you consistently state one thing, it get's challenged and somehow it strengthens your point....I just don't see it you can't have it both ways even though I quite enjoy your keyboard acrobatics now and again
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I'm sorry RD, but, this does the opposite, as the reality as reported is that we don't have two marquee signings as you previously stated, although I get the point and others do that with our investment over time we should be better placed, a reflection of the quality of the investment rather than than amount.
Far be it from me to confirm what pees off other posters (it doesn't me btw), but, you consistently state one thing, it get's challenged and somehow it strengthens your point....I just don't see it you can't have it both ways even though I quite enjoy your keyboard acrobatics now and again'"
It's like listening to a White House press conference at times!
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"That'll pee a couple off on here because now if strengthens my stance on expectations....not to be confused with realisation.
Wire top 4 is on again. Still I expect more from Roberts....although I realise he is improving.'"
Long term expectations will indeed increase as the quality of player signed improves.
However expectation that we go on some lengthy unbeaten run on the back of this one signing is simply setting himself for more disappointment (and for some, more naive ranting on here).
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Long term expectations will indeed increase as the quality of player signed improves.
However expectation that we go on some lengthy unbeaten run on the back of this one signing is simply setting himself for more disappointment (and for some, more naive ranting on here).'"
Okay. We can leave it there then.
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