Saddened is pretty much on the money with his post. The only reason people are upset about it is because he's a Saints fan.

It's like moaning about your partner or your Mum.

You're allowed to do it yourself but if someone else says the same it gets your hackles up.

That made me chuckle.


Last night was really, really positive:

Effort and Desire- not seen as much from our side for over year.
Forwards- first time for a long time I have felt our forwards have a threatening presence.
Defence- excellent bar the last try- it was a reasonably comfortable watch.
Goodwin-looks to be a real find.
New players- all look to have brought something to the table and will only get better (touch wood). BMM-looks the forward running threat we've been missing for years. Sita shown
some great signs already. When Roberts is fully fit and one hard ground could be real game changer.
Attacking structures- there is still work to be done here but there were signs of support players, especially in the first half.
Atmosphere-makes such a positive difference when it's like that.
Steve Price- I like the fact that he shows his frustration and is prepared to break his walkie-talkie-We've needed that for a long Time.

Lastly though, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Ben Currie who I'm a big concerned with regarding his knee. Honourable mention though must go to Ben Flower who could have made that a lot worse, but held back knowing Currie wasn't right.

COYW

Adam Swift es all over Mitch Brown, Matty Russell and Tom Lineham which says a lot

Not sure what I think to that last night.

We dominated but were very poor at the end of sets and should have scored 18-24 points more than we did.

Then come the end we looked knackered and were being dominated ourselves, when they were the ones who’d had a trip to Aus. Extremely disappointed in that last try we allowed from Clubb.

Saying that, the Aus trip might not have had as much of an affect on them as people might think. It may even be next week we see the hangover for Wigan. And it could be that we were very good in dominating them last night. Still poor to let that try in at the end.

Who knows?! Either way I think it’s a game we need to move on from and get our heads on the next game as I think there are too many other factors going around the game to read too much into it.

I think you are right PC, but it's encouraging that we beat Wigan and still have lots of improvement left to make. It's not as if we won playing out of our skin.

Bloody Atkins though, hands like a cows tits to quote a forum favourite.

Let's be honest- the only thing Adam Swift es over is his toilet's rim- his hand eye coordination is atrocious.

I dont think he's on the money because he always puts that Warrington are rubbish slant in every post be makes. Which is why he stays away in seasons where we have been half decent

Clearly No One expected To see a red hot Wigan. Its 3 games in for them.

Have we not watched leeds peak at the END of the season year after year. ...its a typically stupid Saddened idea that a team facing Warrington in February should be in title winning form.

Yes we looked tired at the end but so what we'd worked hard. Wigan couldn't get out of their own half in the entire first half ...no mean feat.

However some dubious penalties helped to change that in the second half. .....

And then he picks out mitch Brown a player on debut who ran in strong made no errors looked very comfortable and looked to have made A try saver on a guy that normally scores four against us...

It was a vast improvement on last season. ..and we'll take that.

There has been no shouting from roof tops because I think the general consensus is one of disappointment that the margin wasn't bigger. ....

All Saddened lacked was that scouse humour of asking when the open top bus parade is...

We'll see how long sad git hangs about in a fortnight.

I don't see a huge improvement to come from Saints - they are riding the creast of a Barba inspired wave at the moment, but tougher days will come.

Same with Wigan. They don't have anyone to come back in and what you saw last night was pretty.much what they have. They still rely heavily on SOL and their pack is poor.

Wires, on the other hand have lots of improvement in them, and once certain key players get match fit we should start to rack up the points. Our defensive structure last night was superb though.

Highlights of last nights game on Sky Arena (before the Cas v Hull game) at 2.55pm

So Saints + Wigan won’t improve but Warrington will? How on earth can you possibly come to that conclusion? As a saints fan (we’re stronger in almost every position except second row) I see nothing to be worried about in Warrington whatsoever and from what I see you’re just saying what you want to believe and what everyone wants to hear.

With defence that good we didn't need to score more. Took them 60 minutes to get within our 10-20m. Scored a barge over with no time left and one with a foot inches away from touch that had ONE look from the VR. Aside from that they got nowhere near. And we bombed two tries that we would score any other day. Great all round game from the team. And we look so much safer without Russell + Ratchford turning it round.

If you think you’re going to beat us then you’re delusional, we are far better than you, in almost every position in fact. You didn’t even look that good last night, very good in defence but bordering on clueless in attack again. Difference is we were fairly poor last night yet still win by 14 points, you play poorly against Huddersfield and you lose by 14 points.

I base it on the fact that your starting 17 are pretty much all fit and playing at the top of their game. Fair play to you, you've hit the ground running and carried on where you left off last year. You look red hot but I don't see anyone coming back from injury, out of form or on a settling period.

Wires have several players coming back to match fitness, and we are getting used to Price's new regime so can reasonably expect to improve further.

Instead of "delusional" why not try "optimistic"? You seem happy with your lot good for you and we can see signs of an improving scene here, so it hopefully bodes well for a decent game against you.

I think that we may win, the odds are probably suggesting that you are favs, but, it wouldn't be a total shock that would bring the delusional to there senses either way?

Cooper immense again.

Defensively we look strong, even in the games we’ve lost. The attack needs a lot of work but that can take time.

Can clearly see Price wants us to get the basics right first, and it shows.

Back on topic, enjoyed last night's game, (great hospitality btw which the club seems to have got right). thought we should have been further ahead as half time but wasn't unduly worried.

M Brown looked steady we looked balanced at the back, some decent performances all round as stated by others, including Cooper, BMM and Goodwin AND also Jack Hughes who has had a lot of stick from me, particularly last season, but, I think has rediscovered a bit of his mojo and made a good start to this?

Hughes has been much better so far, cooper was awesome last night. If we can keep the 4 in the pack from last night fit then we have a pack that can match anyone IMO.

Morrisseyisawire never said they won't improve!...
He said there wont be a huge/big improvement and he gave his reasons which I agree with. Very different from your misquoted post which you seem to do all far too often.

To be fair he's only had 12 posts, says they have nothing to worry about from us which is fine everyone's entitled to an opinion, yet somehow seems kind of unhappy about it all, there's no pleasing some folk

Most of those posts have been on the Warrington board. Why, when he's a saints fan.

Wane more magnanimous about a Wigan defeat than Saints fans... it's the end of the world as we know it...

I expected us to win considering Wigan players are probably still suffering with jet lag/depression after arriving in Wigan from Australia.

We still seem to be missing something in attack, a good attacking team would have put 40 on Wigan but despite dominating territory we just struggled.

It's still early but I don't see us competing for trophies based on what I have seen so far.

All we are missing in a attack is the match fitness of Roberts.
It all be together in time for the arrival of the gypsies.