Yes, primarily the front three.

Gerry Helme was from Leigh
1 Ron Ryder. A centre really but too good to leave out.
2. Mark Foster
3. Jim Challinor
4 Ronnie Duane
5 Laurie Gilfedder
6. Albert Cartwright Good scrum half played for Swinton
8. Bob Eccles
9. Austin Woolvine
10 Ally Brindle
11 Bill Major
12 Joel Tomkins
13 Harry Major.

Sorry I missed out Bobby Fulton at stand off. Senility creeping in.

Joel Tomkins!...let's put Wilkin in at loose forward too.

I always liked Barry Briggs, especially in the spell (late 1960s) before he went to Australia. As well as being a good footballer, he had work rate and aggression in his game. Unfortunately when he returned and played under Murphy, much of that aggression had gone and being no longer good enough for the Wire, he was packed off to Wigan.

I thought the thread, which you started, stipulated Warrington born players.
Jon Wilkin was born in East Yorkshire. Joel Tomkins was born in Warrington.

Correct, WO will 'our' Joel feature on the best or worst Warrington born team? Never been a fan TBH perhaps that's my P&B specs?

I wouldn't even put Joel Tomkins in the worst Warrington born team.
Anyways...I am trying to put together a team of born and Wire players really.

I don't think Laurie Gilfedder will be eager to playing on the wing. He'll prefer Second Row or Loose Forward.

ady spencer, non wire

Gilfedder started life as a fullback
Billy Hayes was a classy loose forward from the sixties before signing for saints

Before he went to Union he was a class player. Never been the same since. If you say he would feature in your worst wire born team you really must get your P&B specs seen to.

Then why didn't you say so?

I would wager that for much of his time at Warrington he played on the left wing

and just how much would you wager?

Peter Cannon played in the back line.

Wasn't Richard Varkulis once tipped to be hot property ?

Ken Parr was an excellent back rower from the 60s. (Newton le Willows ) I think.

Steve Hampson was also born in Newton-le-Willows. Went to Selwyn Jones High School.

Think we can allow n-le-w whilst Colin Welland was a Wire.

Do you ask the question because you think I am wrong or to test the strength of my conviction?
In the mid fifties the back line I remember was Frazer, Bevan, Challinor, Naughton, Gilfedder, Price, Helme,
About 1956 Price went to St Helens and Helme retired. Prior to this we signed Jack Edwards and Martin Regan and shortly after Bobby Greenough. Edwards and Greenough evolved into the half back partnership and Regan became a utility player.
The first choice back line-up was then Frazer, Bevan,Challinor, Naughton, Gilfedder, Greenough, Edwards.
Towards the end of the fifties we signed Terry O'Grady who played left wing whilst Albert Naughton went to loose forward and Gilfedder went into the centre
I would add that Gilfedder was a big, strong, speedy player who was capped as a back and a forward. When injuries necessitated he could play in the pack or in the backs as winger or centre. His distribution was not his strong point however and towards the end of his tenure at Warrington he played more in the pack.
That is my recollection of Laurie Gilfedder apart from the fact that he was and, no doubt still is, a gentleman who was very approachable. Paradoxically I sometimes think that was his weak point. In the era of the biff he was too nice.
To answer your question I am not a betting man and the word wager was not meant literally but, from memory I would say Gilfedder played as much on the left wing as in any other position.

Even though it is officially part of St. Helens?

I've not done a head count or followed the ins and outs on this thread but given the number of names being banded about, if he's not in the 'best' team he must currently be in the 'worst' team?



As far as his RU stint is concerned it did seem to sort him out to be fair, but, I think "class" might be a stretch for me for his pre-kick and clap days

Wasn't the original question to put together a team of players who have played for Warrington who were actually born in Warrington ?

At the end of the day UR it is all down to opinion I suppose. I am as P&B as the next man but, when you think about it, there is a dearth of top class Warrington born players and when you further restrict it to those who have actually played for the club, you struggle. I might be wrong but didn't Joel Tomkins gain international honours?
Ideally I would have put Gilfedder in the second row but I could only think of Foster as a top class Warrington born winger and Gilfedder did play winger/centre/second row.