I think you've answered your own question there, TANCW

We are TOO NICE. We DO need to be a bit nastier, rather than be too obliging. After all, this is Rugby League, and not Strictly Come Dancing.

We have a side (bar a geriatric Westwood) that has all the menace of getting a telling off from Alan Bennett. We are a team of "bloody nice blokes". The type you wouldn't mind your sister getting married to. Unless you're from Burtonwood, of course, where you're already married to your sister

It wasn't only Hardaker that was missing for Cas tonight, I reckon the only one who turned up was the guy playing in his position, Eden.

Gale did a great impression of the invisible man!

I hate Danny Maguire, but he was excellent tonight and ran the game from start to finish

I've said it over and over...Wire have a powder puff light pack since Morley left.

Therein lay our issue and TS downfall. Thank god Cullen knew what it meant to be a forward.

Cullen won us that cc.

Leeds are one of a number of teams with a winning mentality needed in these games. BM has done a brilliant job getting the players back up to this level from last seasons dip in form. Let's hope 2018 we are competing at this stage instead of watching on in envy.

Well said Shazbaz

i.ll just ask this question how is it we walloped em down here cas put 66 on em earlier on inthe season,wigan walloped em and this lot are now champions how can that be

Castleford have been the best team this year I agree

Because they turn up when it really matters I guess.

thanks..what about the games i listed do they not matter...if i bought a season ticket to watch games like that it proves we as fans are being cheated...

They won the Grand Final, so they are champions. End of.

Even FPTP has results where the champions are beaten by rivals.

I think consistency is a more reliable measure of quality than a couple of data points taken at the end of the year so Cas have been the best but I suppose you have to credit Leeds for winning the games they needed to.

Love it or hate it, the RFL have made all the fixtures from February to July, merely a "jockeying for position" competition.

We (as a sport) have backed ourselves into a corner, where the first week in October means everything. But, Sky call the tune, so we have to dance to it.

Cas have been far and away the best team this season. To a kid reading a Rothman's RL book in 2047, history will tell him another story.
That's what the clubs voted for. That's what we've got.

Yep. As much as I'd like to see top wins league, i don't think you can get rid of the grand final. What we can do though is cut down the number of "play-off qualifiers" from a ridiculous 30 to more like 20.

so what you watch from february onwards is a farce..youve said it

Mine too.

In a word, yes

seriously we are having a pop at the grand final....??

what a joke.. a sold out game at old trafford...that everyone has been talking about??

what a massive spectacle....

can i cast your minds back to the NRL grand final this year ?
it was 1st plays 8th

EIGHTH.....

not one person ever made a fuss of it...in fact it was a POSITIVE story in the Aussie media.. they said it was a fairy tale.....

yet here we have the top two battling it out and some how its a travesty......

Leeds won fair and square, because they know its not July and dry whether football......

well done Leeds .... tough luck Cas,
we did the same in 2011 it gets no rewards... what so ever

Well done Leeds, now step aside MoM Danny McGuire and Rob Burrow, next year you've got Richie Myler and Brad Dwyer...

Will be harder for sure, rob burrow is one player I wish we had seen in a wire shirt. Maguire was excellent tonight, possibly the best I have ever seen him play. Myler and dyer are decent but not the same level.

There lies the only show in town

Hope Price fixes it quick

Tonight, the man of steel played behind a beaten pack........say no more!