I didnt know they were on. They did more than enough today, our defense as a team is lacking but go forward non of them did much wrong. I'm not an idiot, just the crying on here is laughable at times.

Currie has now finally returned to the form he had before the virus took hold.
He may not be our 1st marquee signing, but I think he will our 1st club trained marquee by the time his contract is next up for review.
His performance tonight will almost certainly get him an England call up.

obrien is no where near the standard that we need..harrison i do like but was quiet tonight..clark and myler should be doing alot better,,currie was m.o.m for me..it was never intended as to make you an idiot (that tag fits a few on here tho)but the frustration on here is very understandable when certain players are not performing

Wouldn't say crying more frustration at the inconsistency of this team + some players for that matter.Just my opinion by the way but O'Brien isn't our answer.He'll probably get a few more games but he's showing more than Clark I'll give him that.Mind you who's not?

Go on then, I'll bite

O'Brien beyond criticism tonight?

Love me,
His first touch of the ball goes "out on the full" !!!!!!! Muppetry of the highest order.
Various "fluff ups" in the first half
Loads of pressure on the Cats line in the first half (as proved by the PTB graphic on Sky), and all he does is pass the ball. Nothing else. No vision. No thinking ahead. Just get the ball and get rid. For what we need him to be, he simply doesn't fit the bill.
I've said this COUNTLESS times before. O'Brien is 24.....yes, that's right, 24. He's not "still learning". He should have learned by now. He's at Wakey/Cas/HKR level, and no more (apologies to any of their fans who may have strayed onto this site). Time to go lad. You're not good enough for a team who've been challenging for honours in the last few years.

Christ almighty, O' Brien and Harrison stunk the place out today. I'm a big Harrison fan by the way but his error count was three bare minimum. O' Brien just doesn't have it, I'm sorry. Not up to scratch I'm afraid and he's had plenty of time. Give him a year out on loan at a lower SL team as a last chance saloon but if it doesn't happen there he should be gone. Kicking the ball out on the full with your first touch in about two months? Nice way to make an impression. Atkins (not going to bother giving the ball to Gene then?) and Ratchford (carry the peeing ball properly) were both disappointing. Atkins seems to be disappointing more often than not though. Think Myler's made a decent impression since he came back from injury but I can't remember him doing anything all night.

Dwyer and Currie were the bright spots (as well as the return of two pint pots, all hail the new chief exec). Ben Currie looks back on track to being the player we all thought he could be when he first broke through, the lad has it all. He could go to the very top. As said, Dwyer showed Clark up again. I thought Clark did ok though not quite Man of Steel territory. Hill was obviously very good as usual.

Overall, pretty poor but we got the result. What worries me most is that rather than us failing due to the ball not sticking etc. as it has quite often been when we've played badly under Smith's tenure it's increasingly the case is that we just do all the basics really badly. There was a spell in the first half when we had about five sets back to back in the Catalan half through sheer dumb luck and we still couldn't do anything. There's been a lot of negativity on here over the course of this season but I've tried to wait and see if we come good rather than work myself into a frenzy, but tonight I'm just not sure.

Our backs v Saints were 2nd best to a average stand off playing scrum half and a backrower playing standoff. As for tonight, thank god Carney wasn't playing. To think Catalan only got back on Monday. Barely enough time for them to have a shaat, shave and a training session before getting no lay in this morning to comeback to the uk.
On that form we will be beaten at Huddersfield and it could be embarrassing.

GHF your bang on with all but one of your points....your way off with your stance on Currie.. ..(IMO)

I'm not a fan of Currie because of his "hiding". He has pace to burn, he has good feet, and good hands (Hello Halfback??) but in my very own opinion, he doesn't have it as an honest second row. Harrison put some serious shots on in defence today some real bone crunchers. Early on in the game i thought it was going to be a real marker for the game...sadly no one else bothered.

Westwood; his number of carries was frightening. But I doubt the official Sl stats will reflect this, but I thought Westwood was immense.

As I mentioned from my earlier post Currie in the first half had FOUR carries that yielded one hospital pass (and turned over possession), two 'tackled in possession' and one great angled run for one try. it was similar in the second half, again he gave out one hospital pass that turned over possession, he was tackled three times and managed one offload and finished off a great try. his work rate was poor. it is no surprise he had the energy to show the pace to leg it down the wing like he did because Westwood was doing the grunt of two men.

other than Westwood Hill and Bridge (excusing one brain fart when the game was won) I'm so dissapointed in the team....

I'm staying up for the re-run of the game at 1:00 am to see if it looks any better on telly...

My impression of the game was that ,although we still came up with the obligatory handling errors due to rushed plays & once more nearly managed to be the architects of our own downfall, we seemed to be showing a flair & freedom that has been missing since February 2014. There were some good performances out there tonight ,but is it because the team have collectively decided their performances have been below par, or has someone had a right royal boot up the behind ?

The Times report this am uses a word that has summed us up all season - "leaden footed". Where has the energy and flair gone? Are they being overtrained?

I was shocked to see GOB brought back tonight..I thought we'd moved on from him in the side with Myler and Patton in the halves.. He simply doesn't cut it ,I fear for the rest of our season if we keep him in the side he was god awful last night.

Although i must say i couldn't criticise our halves last night ,i think maybe Gareth was an attempt to solve the goal kicking & possibly because he has more experience against a big ,physical side like Les Cats. I know we missed a few goals again from out wide & maybe the team should work on trying to score closer to the posts....the odd chip in from the wing to the post for instance. As we know goalkicking can be critical ,but i really did enjoy the match last night.

Wire x3- if we can't critique the game and its players, we may as well just shut this entire FORUM (look it up in the dictionary) down now.

Think your right about GOB being brought back for his goal kicking, pity it was very ordinary last night. I'd stick with Bridge as kicker tbh.

We played some decent stuff in patches las night, however it would have been a different result if Cats hadn't knocked on when they looked like going in for their third straight try at the start of the second half. We really need to do some work on our mindset when coming back on after the break, that's two weeks now where we have been caught napping.

Can someone explain to me why Westwood thought that applying a chicken wing tackle was a good idea, just bleeding stupid, he'll miss the Shudders game for that.

oh my word Ive just checked the stats on the Superleague website currie has made 19 carries and westwood only 18 that is a nonsense sheer and utter rubbish if Currie made 18 carries and more than Westwood they are counting passes (not runs) from Dummy half as a carry.


someone who taped the game count them I did live at the game he never made it to double figures.

according to the stats Currie made 8 tackle busts...I must have gone to the wrong game .... 8 busts...??

who was counting Joey Essex

So you went and looked up the stats so you could slag off Currie a bit more, and now you're throwing yourntoys out because they don't prove your point. Not your best look.

not at all I hate using stats to explain any performance its quite stupid and its like playing a bad game of top trumps....but I like the belittling toys out of the pram line nice touch...

I looked to see if they told a tale and they clearly dont, it just underlines my stance that anyone solely using stats hasnt got much of a clue about the game...

I'm more having a laugh at the stats than wanting to slag off Currie he was lazy last night for large parts of the game, and he gave two passes that hit players on the side because he wouldnt take the hit up, and forced a pass instead. Yet they dont get registered as errors...???

and the best you can come up with is i'm throwing toys out of the pram.

for some reason you like to attack my posts when you can more than anyone else I respect that but at least provide something back rather than trying to look smug if I've said something wrong.

Give me a couple of examples of Curries eight tackle busts...?? ( i had to make a phone call during the game so I may have missed one)

I think the losing the plot after half time & letting teams get back into games has been a problem for quite a few seasons but in the past we have had more fire power to come back & stamp our authority on games, although that has been diminishing steadily over the last 2 or 3 seasons. I think players must be brainwashed when they come here though into playing panic rugby & switching off after half time.

Mmm
I didn't really enjoy the match. It was scrappy - too many errors - and as has been said by others we had a lot of things going in our favour (turnaround time, Carney missing etc).
There just doesn't seem to be a flow with the team at the moment and I wouldn't know really where to start.
Chris Hill is probably our only player who is playing consistently well (Ratch is almost in that category, apart from the one handed carries).
Currie does some good things that get noticed (not his issue) but he's not at Whiteheads level. A lot of pressure on him due to media hype and McBanana's comments. It doesn't help him.
Unfortunately the halves are the biggest problem, but all the chopping and changing doesn't help. Then again if they're not performing at the required standard you have to try something different.
Things can change in a matter of a few games (just ask Radford at Hull), but I don't see where that's going to come from (Hull got key players back from injury).

Not expecting anything this year. If by some miracle we get in the top 4 we're not at the same standard as the current top 4.
We should get in the 8, but it's still very close 5-10.
The Cup depends on the draw, but ultimately we'll come up against a top side. As in the Wiagn / KR match anything can happen in the Cup but I honestly can't see a spark that could deliver that for us.

The only clean breaks I saw came from Atkins and Bridge. I was on the phone to flying for the 5 mins that Currie made those 8 busts, although lack of busts is not a bad thing if it means he has passed the ball before hand??

I like currie. He has improved massively on his attack. Without him and the good fortune we had, we wouldn't have won v Cats. He doesn't hit first often in a tackle though, I'd like to see him up the anti on defence if we continue with this current HB partnership, it's a case of him having too.

If he was lazy for large parts of the game, his 19 carries for 161m (13m more than anyone else on the pitch) is even more impressive! The first pass, to GOB, I'll cop being forced, even though GOB didn't take it because he was tackled without the ball, hence you getting a penalty. The second pass, Harrison should have taken that all day, hence him apologising at the scrum. A tackle bust is breaking a tackle, it's completely different to a clean break (breaking the line). Walmsley is on 64 tackle busts for the season, don't think he's made many clean breaks!

Clearly you take issue with the stats, so there are two possibilities here. 1 - Opta, the people who make a living from finding and presenting sports stats, have got their sports stats completely and utterly wrong. 2 - you have.



I think Warrington will do well enough to make the semis this year in Super League by virtue of their overall talent, but you're probably too weak (and undecided) at halfback to present a major challenge this year. Curious to see where Kurt Gidley will fit in next year in this regard.

Was really impressed with Whitehead last night btw. He's some player.

And I have every right to voice my own opinions on the idiotic ones posted here, see, a forum! WOW!

Now you've got the idea!

He made one clean line break for his first try. ..how obvious do you need one to be. .?

And mtrs made let's take that.... currie scores a fifty mtr try down the touchline unopposed. Ratchford fields a kick on his own line and makes thirty metres on open grass before reaching another human being Chris Hill makes a three mtr carry under his own sticks with three Catalan forwards smashing in to him. Those mtrs are directly comparable in the stats.... surely you can see there is no point what so ever in comparing the "easy" mtrs with those hill sims and Westwood make???