Don't know today's stats ,but previous years teams with the amount of ball we had would have scored 30 to 40 points.so problems all round.

There shouldn't be any surprise at this result.. were playing very poorly and are there to be beaten.

There are some players badly stealing a living in this team at the minute.

How much possession on there line!!! And utter clueless getting over,, since agar has been here our attack has looked pants,, I really think if we can't beat wakey sat, smith time is at an end,,

Smith's after math summing up
He did mention arm wrestle (cringe)

"stick with it, and it'll turn around"

I beg to differ, Anthony

Try using
defence
good tactics
an attacking game which results with us looking like we may score, instead of merely passing the ball in the opposition's 20m
not charging the ball down on every 5th tackle

Smith said about the arm wrestle and was, typically, dismissive. He did say that our attacking plays in their territory weren't where they needed to be. I think he's throwing us a bone, or something.

Amount of ball we had , we should have been out of site. Westwood ,penalty machine again(2 games running).clark ,still waiting for him to turn up

Smith doesnt fill you with confidence , still lots of time to turn it around and we was in the arm wrestle for much of the game

8,519 when was the crowd so low for a bank holiday game

Cack

154 points in 9 games tells you all you need to know about who's coaching the attack

For 60 minutes I thought we looked comfortable ,then last 20 again we just fell asleep again. Agar said weeks back we have been working on defence pre season, but if he,s taken over smithy in training which looks highly likely he needs to f××k off quick

Bodger and Badger?

It's down to effort. Last 10 mins showed there is much more in the locker. Why the hell though after 3 losses we didn't do it only the players know.

Backs are the main problem for me. There is no movement off the ball to create alternative lines in the 3/4. For most of the game the forwards were ok but no options out wide. It's too predictable. There are no moves to create the overlap or confuse the defence. The passing is also too slow and predictable bar the last 10 mins.

It's all rectifiable but the players need a big kick up the backside. Hopefully it's not too late.

If the rumours that Smith has taken a back seat to Agar are true then maybe the dressing room has been lost, but it is Agar who has lost it and not Smith.

Maybe we'll be seeing the back of Agar in the coming days?

Been evident for weeks there is problems in that dressing room.

Most likely money, or a bad egg, at the root of things.

Look how Salford turned things round after Hock left.

Young hooker, gets MOS and a move to Warrington where he can learn from the vast experience of Michael Monaghan, only to discover (too late) that he is retiring and Warrington can't find a place for him in the coaching staff. Clarke might be stealing a wage but he must be wondering whether the move was worth it.

The Agar effect!

I know Smith has done wonders for this club but i'm now starting to lose patience with the post match drivel he comes out with and to think we let Monas go in favour of i've won nothing Agar.If it was Smith who had the call over that decision he's def gone down in my estimation.

You have too much quality on the park too be devoid of options in attack. I fear nothing will change for you guys whilst you have that clown Agar there. Get rid of him and I'm sure you will have a say in things come the end of the year. Why do you not just let Clarky run and play his own game? Looks like he's playing with a ball and chain round his ankle! Just take the shackles of him and tell him to do what he wants and he'll cause problems for any team.

Are you asking this question because you think as fans we have some sort of say in the way our club or players are coached

Outhought, outfought out enthused, out skilled, by a team who played a day after us on quagmire of a pitch against the league leaders.

Coaching and playing staff should hang their heads in shame

We are awful!

You know they were just talking in hypothetical terms.

Anyway, **** today, it's been and gone. Onwards and upwards to Saturday against Wakefield.

Big changes for Saturday or more of the same?