The fact we are suggesting a good behaviour clause in a 31 year olds contract tells me all we need to know about Hock.

We do need another line breaker Hock is just that, RU season under way any movement in that direction appears not to be happening, I feel it will be to another SL club, if he were to come here I would be a little concerned but would trust the clubs judgement.

I see him as a direct replacement for Westwood who for me is a bigger question.

would he not be a direct replacement for waterhouse?

Where is all the talk of Hock coming from?
Just can't see it and wouldn't be over happy about it.

It's the out of season open season!

MD quota for quota...is Sims.

Can Sims not be for Monaghan?

I'd have him in but with the transfer fee I don't think he's worth the gamble considering that at his age we'd only get three years max out of him. I don't think the "he's had loads of time out with bans" line holds any water, even if it is tongue in cheek. There was talk that we'd get more out of Rauhihi because he came to the game later than most and, well, I don't really want to revisit what for me was possibly the biggest let down in my time supporting the wire. An old man is an old man at the end of the day.

We'd have unrivalled strength in depth if we signed him as well as Moi Moi and Wheeler though.

Nothing certain about MoiMoi. We was still in talks till a couple of weeks back.
He is being fussed about his book lately so perhaps he'll hang his boots up after all.

Hock's just the mongrel every pack needs.

I would have liked to have seen him come on in the first half for us on Friday.

We could stipulate he puts itching powder in his jock strap ....that would make him even more hostile to the opposition.

At 31 I would be amazed if any RU Club came for him. It would take him 18 months at least to learn the game and where would he play? I'd take him on a 2 year contract, but I certainly wouldn't pay a fee.

This is the same Hock who has been bumming around Widnes and Salford for the past couple of years?

Why don't you ask him?!

What's that supposed to mean? I'm sure that there are plenty of cases that I wouldn't want to mess with, but, that doesn't mean I would want them to play for Warrington RLFC unless I felt compelled to tell them so just to prove a point

Are you just picking on me for the sake of it?

It would be an exercise in futility. Monosyllabic conversations are not my forte.

I am warming to this idea even though it is against what I thought the club was about.

Really just from the viewpoint that we do need to get some dog back into our team.

I think Joel may also be warming to your idea!

I've absolutely no idea what you are on about, you are reading a different post to the one that I typed

The man is a sociopath who has no understanding of the word loyalty and more importantly has done nothing worthwhile on a rugby pitch since goodness knows when. I'm hoping TS is of the same view, given what happened to Gleeson (Martin) I suspect he is.

I'll support whoever plays in the pnb next season if that is hock then so be it. Hock at his best would improve any team in my opinion, however as many have said his ability is not the stumbling block with him. If tony smith thinks he can work with him then who would I be to disagree with him.

Hock went to Widnes because Wigan wouldn't allow him to go anywhere else, at the time Widnes were no threat to anyone.
Then he went to Salford because the doc was ambitious and saw Hock as a quality signing.

With an Aussie club signing in the middle