This thread has come up (on here and redvee) after most of the GFs that we've been in recently; there is clearly a problem.

Kick off time needs to be brought forward and better segregation...I don't understand why the RFL sell tickets behind the sticks as this should just be for the fans that have been assigned that end...keep the neutrals together in the corners/sides to avoid this from happening.

We pride ourselves on being a family sport, which it is, but there is a clear problem when it comes to finals and we need to police it in a different manner. We don't need lines of stewards separating fans, but the RFL just need to sell tickets in a better way.

If that doesn't fix the problem then the last resort would be to stop booze being sold in the ground.

I was quite astonished by the simmering air of beer fuelled menace in Sam Platts before the game and the western edge of the North stand during the game. Full of people who had no interest in the game and were seemingly there to goad whoever was in earshot. I am not a shrinking violet but it still came as a bit of a shock, never seen anything like it.

Like the people above I will not buy tickets from the RFL again and will think twice about taking the wife and kids.

That would only work if there was a very very strict policy of not allowing anyone who is already drunk into the ground. But then you would have thousands upon thousands trying to get in with minutes to go (having waited in the pub 'til the last possible moment) and police or stewards having to decide on a case by case basis who's drunk or who isn't. Some may get turned away after just a couple of beers because they smell of alcohol whilst others get in because that particular steward is unable, or unwilling to say no.

I am still so angry that, win lose or draw, last night should have been the highlight of 35 years of following the Wire, but instead I felt incredibley uncomfortable and exposed and I hated almost every moment inside the stadium from 15 minutes or so before kickoff until I got out.

btw lots of people around us openly drinking and smoking in their seats. Again none of them were wearing colours and some started off 'supporting' Warrington then changed when leeds went in front. Mind there were plenty of low rent Warrington supporters around as well, makes me cringe sometimes that I am from the same town.

It still blows my mind that there is no alcohol on the terraces at OT, yet it can still be purchased before the game and at half-time. How is 'forcing' people to blitz a beer or two in a few minutes more preferable than allowing them to drink it over a 40 minute period?

I'm not sure how to effectively enforce a 'no drunks to be allowed admission' fairly, but I don't think alcohol should be sold at games.

I saw trouble in the Leeds end prior to kick-off and in the Warrington end afterwards. The trouble in the Warrington end saw a guy in no colours kicking the living feces out of another guy while he was down, until Warrington fans (who I presume knew the victim) noticed and stepped in (this had occurred as a result of some verbals and shirt grabbing).

I think you must be very fortunate then. My friend had to leave early when Wigan were there a couple of years ago due to abuse to her 2 Children who were in Warrington tops, & lots of trouble around them. She went on a coach & had to get home by train & taxi. Wouldn't go this year due to that experience.

it was my first visit to o-t and maybe my last,the atmosphere was really nasty at times,unlike wembley,went into a pub nr the ground full of leeds fans who though it was hilarious to push and shove me at the bar and tried to rip my wire top off whilst singing w@nky wire in my face,having left the pub had to endure more leeds idiots on the way to the ground,inside the ground was just as bad ,where i was at,full of s, cept for a few saints fans who i had a good banter with

and outside the ground waiting for my coach yet more abuse and leeds fans offering me out and spitting on me,i would not mind but they were middle aged and there women were just as bad! we all have our bad fans, but leeds fans are,-->> , imo ,the worst ive encountered, like i say,its just my own personal opinion,it just spoilt what should have been an enjoyable and memorable day.

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First of all congratulations to Leeds on winning the game. I thought you deserved it on the night. Now, the thread. There are a lot of people commenting on the alcohol consumption of certain "idiots" as a person who also goes to army v navy games I think the banning of alcohol would be a bad idea. At these games most are well oiled before the game even thinks about starting. Would this ban affect us? May be, maybe not. Policing of these games is always well done with the sale of beer restricted. I think the RFL should look to this as an option and probably go to this day as well. Yes I know what most of you are thinking but I am a staunch wires fan and have held a season ticket since The formation of the wolf pack back in the 1990's hopefully the Army v Navy games will become a league spetical as apposed to an RFU one.

Like some of you wire lot too.Hey I got a few bites and that is worth a celebration.Stop winking gay boy

Is your 'off the cuff' name a reference to the fact that you are clearly an utter w**ker?

As a Leeds fan I feel horrified reading this. When the big games come along a small minority of numpties seem to appear out of the woodwork and it's shocking

As we left last night me and some of the lads I was with shuck hands with your fans and offered commiserations

We're not all bad

My pleasure mate.

It only a game calm down Scousers.

Do you not think it is incredibly sad that you have to celebrate when the second most successful club over the last few years lose because you've had nothing to celebrate in your own life?

Just an observation, as a non-Wire fan (so you can't claim I'm in your "net"icon_wink.gif, that maybe you should take a quick look at yourself and think "is my life really this pathetic?"

I think the fact you take that much pleasure from this is the most amusing thing.

This is the first time my internet's been on, since coming home, last night.
I saw the thread, and I knew what was coming.
Simple fact is, we'll acquire these knuckle-scraping morons, every time we make a final. The one big bonus of the country's recession, is that these hard of thinking twastards don't turn up for semi-finals, anymore (CC semis of 2000 and 2001, and the "behaviour" of our "fans" on the day, anyone?).
My witness to this, was a quite pathetic one. Where I was sat, there was a clutch of Leeds fans, which were lads in their late teens (not drunk), trying their best to act "the hard man" when Leeds scored. I just thought, OK lads, just calm down, and don't take the pee, too much. Unfortunately, one Wire fan, a bloke in his late 40's, wanted to take them on, and started doing the cut-throat sign to 4 teenage lads.....grow up. He even started to climb over people, to approach the kids, to prove his "manliness"...yes, a bloke, nearly 50, wanting to hit (what basically are) kids.


Fact is, behaviour like what's been previously mentioned, is here to stay. Whenever we reach finals, knuckle scrapers will turn up, bladdered, saying "I'm Wires freva". Why can't they stay at home, and watch the X Factor?
Society has breeded these twonks, and the rest of us decent minded people have to put up with them

You're a Homophobe too then..Just Love off....

Adding smilies to other people's post in order to use personal insults. How very mature. Still, I expected nothing less from a knuckle dragging neanderthal.

Amusing you lot are sore losers and bite easily.I am used to losing so brush it off my shoulders.



My life is fantastic i smile every day and when Wire lose it like a Trophy.I could win a fishing competition with you lot.

Catch number 10.

Got no personal insults i love you.

Calm down Scouser.

Last warning for you pack it in or i'll make sure it's your last post on this forum,

Trolling if funny, witty, clever i'll go with, but offensive and pointless no.

Let him be, Yed.
He's just underlining his pr1ckness, he'll be gone soon.

As a Saints fan , I obviously have plenty experience losing at Old T and over the last 6 years have seen trouble nearly every year .
The worst year was against Leeds 3 years ago , I believe its on you tube . Also heard a Leeds fan got thrown off the upper tier. I spent 80 mins getting abuse from Wigan supporters around me.
Also against Wigan two years ago we had to try and defend my 68 yr old mother and 5 year old from a fight which started by goading Leeds 'fans' (had Leeds shirts anyway) in the row in front of us.

Segregation of the playing teams fans should be looked at .

What I don't understand , I went to Magic all weekend - same city - fans could sit anywhere - drink all day/evening . I never saw one bit of trouble , had a good laugh with all teams speccy's (even the French) . It was a real carnival of RL and enjoyed every minute . Maybe I was just lucky ?

But wait, "fatbaztod" said that there wasn't any trouble at all and the only reason there was this year was because of the Wire fans. So what you are saying is that he is lying? Why would he do that? I mean, according to Odenwingie (a Wigan fan), Wire fans are the scum of the earth.

Where is he anyway? Is he unable to type due to over exertion of both wrists due to our defeat last night?

In my experience this is totally incorrect , as I said , check You Tube

The Magic weekend was on the whole attended by RL fans that actually give a toss about the image of the game...These neanderthals see a Final within a short train ride of their home, on a Saturday with a 6pm kick off as a chance just to get on the pi$$ and act up..
The segregation idea needs to be looked at and an afternoon kick off would help too IMO..