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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"i noticed you didnt use the C word'"
didnt want to upset anyone with words.... you know how people get.
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| Quote ="matthew"There's a contrast emerging between the Tony Smith approach which is that the aim is to play the right kind of rugby and then that will will lead to the right results and the Michael Maguire approach which is to do whatever is required to get the right results....attacks to the knees, gouging, pretending to be injured, holding players by deliberately trapping the arm/legs etc win penalties , bringing players back early from long bans for drugs, challenging refs decisions etc.
It feeds through into things like accepting bans, accepting bad reffing decisions, accepting disciplinary punishments. In short behaving like men not like spoiled children.
I have no doubt if a Warrington player acted as Hock did, Tony Smith (and the Warrington club) would deal with the player and then hand it to the disciplinary.
On a similar note I suspect the petulant and foolish Tompkins needs a mature coaching influence to stop him going off the rails and it looks like Maguire is not providing that influence. Looking at the change in Lee Briers attitude (and others) under Smith, he could do wonders for Tompkins.'"
Do you honestly think Maguire told his players to go out there and gouge the opposition's eyes out?
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"didnt want to upset anyone with words.... you know how people get.'"
only on the Wigan board
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| Disgraceful from both Hock and Maguire. To condone that and play it off as nothing is nothing short of farcical. Show's Maguire's true colours, the underhand tactics employed by the Wigan team are obviously not a coincidence and this statement magnifies that point.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Disgraceful from both Hock and Maguire. To condone that and play it off as nothing is nothing short of farcical. Show's Maguire's true colours, the underhand tactics employed by the Wigan team are obviously not a coincidence and this statement magnifies that point.'"
Clueless!
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"only on the Wigan board'"
forget the eye gouge.... i said 'cancer'.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Disgraceful from both Hock and Maguire. To condone that and play it off as nothing is nothing short of farcical. Show's Maguire's true colours, the underhand tactics employed by the Wigan team are obviously not a coincidence and this statement magnifies that point.'"
Again, where does it say he was referring to the Hock incident? The bit I read doesn't list the questions Maguire was asked, who knows what the question was. If I missed this elsewhere then obviously I take it back...
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"icon_lol.gif Clueless!'"
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Fair enough! Although he does say he needs to have another look therefore meaning he doesn't condone it as he obviously hasn't seen it.
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Fair enough! Although he does say he needs to have another look therefore meaning he doesn't condone it as he obviously hasn't seen it.
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| Quote ="Ron"'"
I love Saints fans tbh. I think their just hoping we play like that against them in the next few weeks to avoid the inevitable Wigan v Wire final!
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| Quote ="Dave26"Fair enough! Although he does say he needs to have another look therefore meaning he doesn't condone it as he obviously hasn't seen it.'"
My thoughts exactly. You won't see Maguire defending him when he goes up against the disciplinary panel.
What sort of ban does this offence carry?
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"My thoughts exactly. You won't see Maguire defending him when he goes up against the disciplinary panel.
What sort of ban does this offence carry?'"
His season over (minimum 4 game ban I think), blessing in disguise for you.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"icon_lol.gif Clueless!'"
Care to expand on that or are you condoning the thugs behaviour too?
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Thank you beat me to.it.
I'll wait the apologies.
The guy is a bad example to aspiring rugby league players and coaches.
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Thank you beat me to.it.
I'll wait the apologies.
The guy is a bad example to aspiring rugby league players and coaches.
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| Quote ="Dave26"Fair enough! Although he does say he needs to have another look therefore meaning he doesn't condone it as he obviously hasn't seen it.'"
He had a better view of the big screen than I did, but I could quite clearly see the incident after the first replay!!!!
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Care to expand on that or are you condoning the thugs behaviour too?'"
Yeah from my posts so far on the matter you can clearly see I am condoning his behaviour. Answer this question...
Do you honestly think Maguire tells his players to go out there and gouge opposition players eyes out?
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Yeah from my posts so far on the matter you can clearly see I am condoning his behaviour. Answer this question...
Do you honestly think Maguire tells his players to go out there and gouge opposition players eyes out?'"
No, I don't. But I do think he employs a win at all costs attitude which can be dangerous when thugs like Hock get ideas in their head.
My point was the fact that he said there was nothing in a clear eye gouge is disgraceful. The most despicable act you can perform on a rugby field after assaulting an official.
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| GMR said that gouging carriers a ban of 4-8 matches.
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| Quote ="upsetzombie"Thank you beat me to.it.
I'll wait the apologies.
The guy is a bad example to aspiring rugby league players and coaches.'"
See above!
A bad example? Really? If winning trophies is bad then you may have a point...
Quote ="So Grose but So Good"He had a better view of the big screen than I did, but I could quite clearly see the incident after the first replay!!!!'"
I can't comment on that as I couldn't see it at all from where I was stood. Wouldn't expect him to condone or point the finger at Hock without seeing it properly, not on the big screen in the heat of the moment. I'm quite sure he will not defend Hock's actions, the same as 99% of Wigan fans, when he's seen it properly.
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| I hope Hock stands on a plug!
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| wouldnt hold your breath, this is the cheating scumbag maguire.
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| Quote ="So Grose but So Good"He had a better view of the big screen than I did, but I could quite clearly see the incident after the first replay!!!!'"
I'd hope from his comments that he hasn't seen the incident again as there's no way he could condone that behaviour. In fairness to him, I wasn't sat too far from Maguire and couldn't see the screen properly because of how sunny it was. It was only when I watched the match back at home that I saw the incident properly. If Hock plays again this season it will be a disgrace.
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| Quote ="Dave26"See above!
A bad example? Really? If winning trophies is bad then you may have a point...
I can't comment on that as I couldn't see it at all from where I was stood. Wouldn't expect him to condone or point the finger at Hock without seeing it properly, not on the big screen in the heat of the moment. I'm quite sure he will not defend Hock's actions, the same as 99% of Wigan fans, when he's seen it properly.'"
In that case all he had to say is " I can't comment on the incident until I have seen the replays"
Simples
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| It's nothing but utter lies if people are saying he hasn't seen it. He saw enough of it to state 'there's nothing much in it,' therefore he has seen it.
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