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| Quote ="Early Bath"You come across as very young & crisps on your shoulder. In time they will become chips. There were 250 from Salford in the `players` stand never mind the terraces.
Be gracious in defeat for once - Salford overcame a penalty count of 23-2 from Mr Thaler plus had a Ratchford try disallowed which would have been given on TV. Salfords pack won the game and if Fridays game is your ultimate excuse then why not utilise your squad and play the lads on the sidelines.
The bottom line is Mr Smith misread the signals and picked the wrong team entirely.'"
Alright then 300.
On another thread I've said that Salford desevered to win today, as they did, they were better than us and I feel it would of been pretty unjust if we'd of snatched it at the end. I'll be gracious in defeat. Friday's game isn't my ultimate excuse but it certainly contributed to us losing today. We looked goosed.
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| Alot of the 'fringe' players quite simply didn't step upto the mark today.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Well after today's 'showing', I'd rather have Stefan Dennis (Neighbours)'"
Does that make you feel good?
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| Best team won on the day. I'm happy to accept that and congratulate Salford on the win but I'd forgotten what an obnoxious contingent they have supporting them on RLFans.
On the game, thought Carvell stood up well enough but there was a worrying lack of shape and imagination in attack. I'm afraid I think the squad should have been used much better than it was.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Does that make you feel good?'"
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| Quote ="just_browny"Best team won on the day. I'm happy to accept that and congratulate Salford on the win but I'd forgotten what an obnoxious contingent they have supporting them on RLFans.
AND YET YOU NEED TO LOOK AT OUR THREAD AND SEE WHAT YOUR FANS ARE PUTTING ON
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| Crikey, how many times do need telling you deserved to win. There were plenty beforehand saying it was a potential banana skin.
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| Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but quite a few people near where I stood booed when the hooter went at the end of the game. I couldn't quite believe my ears. To top it off, as I was walking down the steps some bloke had a go at me for clapping- needless to say I put him in his place.
How anyone can boo a team at the top of the league is beyond me, you couldn't make it up.
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| Jesus christ, you lost a game, get over it!! Your still in the best position you have ever been in Super League currently!
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Salford kept hold of the ball and completed Sets..we didnt simple as that
its a worry that we look absolute dog poop in wet weather... whats the weather like in October November.....? its a worry if we have designs on Old Trafford.
good point made earlier on I thought Thalers policing off the Off side Rule didnt exist today but we had more than enough chance to dominate with the number of Penalties we recieved.....
and another thing I hate absolutely hate the fact we only show some urgnecy with 9 minutes on the clock.........
oh and my player to hate today is Rhys Williams... a carthorse that looks as enthusiastic as as a scouser being offered a job (stereotype chucked in for good measure). we did a kick chase for him and he may as well have just stopped shrugged his shoulders and said sod that'"
Here here, Biccy
I remember a winger that would have chased that kick down...but Oh....we got rid of him last year....
I'm so underwelmed by Williams it's untrue...Bradford wouldn't take him, he's that average
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| I didn't see the game today, but after watching Bulls-Saints (Bradford were robbed...) and seeing the other scores, I have to say it is a chance missed to put some daylight between Wire and the chasers.
My thoughts are that Salford had a relatively young side out, and with Warrington winning a large number of games by easy margins, should Tony S not have played a few more of the reserve grade/academy today?? Clearly the forwards (in particular) would have been tired, and i think that giving some of the reserves their chance at a first team spot may have paid dividends, as (and no disrespect here...) it was only Salford.
Still... Smith is an extremely knowledgable coach, and he felt he needed to go with a number of guys backing up from friday. I just feel that it was a great chance missed to consolidate top spot.
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| As a Salford fan i have to say (and it pains me to say it) but Warrington are a class side and you lot are looking good to win the double this year but i dont think you can just blame yesterdays result because of friday game with England.Smith wouldnt have played players if he didnt think they were up for it and you cant say having two games in two days would made the players tired as its just like the easter period playing two games in two days.Thanks for the messages on our board and hope you do us a favour at the weekend
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| Anyone who doesn't think Friday's game is one of the reasons we lost is completely wrong IMO. There's some stato's on here, can someone tell me the last round in SL where the top 4 teams in SL all failed to win? I don't know but I would hazard a guess it's a good while ago! (if at all!)
Salford deserved the win by doing the basics. Keeping hold of the ball and one out rugby with a good kick to complete the set which will always see you do well in such poor conditions. How a Salford player was not put in the bin for persistent holding down and interference is beyond me though...
I'm not too concerned, you won't win every game, if anything this will put our feet back on the ground. Briers had a stinker, Monas just wasn't firing, Hodgson also seemed a little fatigued and wasn't positioned for the 2nd phase play we normally use. But on the plus side I thought Myler had a good game and I liked the way he tried to take the game to Salford when the team was struggling. Extremely vocal in trying to organise the left edge attack too which has been one of my criticisms of his in the past. Big mention to Gaz again as well, superb!
Never mind, review the video and get back on the horse at KR.
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| Quote ="Alfie Langer No2"Anyone who doesn't think Friday's game is one of the reasons we lost is completely wrong IMO. '"
Well, if Saints players are anything to go by, backing up wasn't a reason for your loss. The Saints players who backed up had good games, albeit while playing entirely the wrong style of rugby for the conditions, whereas the guys left behind plus Perry who'd even had a week off (banned), were all very poor bar Makinson, our substitute winger. Wilkin was outstanding for us and he worked hard on Friday night too. So I really don't think backing up was the problem yesterday, for any team. If Saints players can back up well then so can those in the teams above us in the league IMO.
Friday might be different. As with the Easter programme, it is often the game in the following week when the tiredness can kick in.
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| I'd agree to an extent, our best 3 IMO was Myler Carvell & Westwood... Our worst performer was Briers, had a stinker. The thing is with Briers, form is temporary, class is permanent. He'll be back next week I reckon.
When I say I think Friday is to blame is because of the preparation for the game. Salford had the full squad working on a game plan for yesterday, we only had half a squad and boy did it show. We looked out of sorts and lacking ideas which isn't the norm for the past 6 weeks.
As I said, Wire, Hudds, the pies & Saints all failing to win on one weekend is too much of coincidence when these teams made up the majority of the two squads. Only Leeds went against the grain this weekend, but HKR beat themselves by the sounds of it (which hardly surprises me).
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| How can people say that Friday had nothing to do with this game is beyond me. 7 of our starting 13 played a tough game less than 2 days ago and not involved in warringtons preperation. Heavy conditions makes it more energy sapping. None of the top 4 that provided the huge majority of the england exiles game won. I was worried all week that we'd struggle, Salford given the circumstances must have fancied this one. Fatigue is the reason we lost this one and i think we will still feel the effects next weekend too. I could be wrong and the table doesn't represent the quality of the teams.
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| agree about fridays game having some affect. but also throw into the mix, no KIng, Harrison, Anderson, Monaghan. I know some of u don't like Clarky but at least he would have been fresh, or is he out injured
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| Quote ="stubblesteve"agree about fridays game having some affect. but also throw into the mix, no KIng, Harrison, Anderson, Monaghan. I know some of u don't like Clarky but at least he would have been fresh, or is he out injured
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i disagree, apart from benny. myler, moz, bridge and carvell hardly broke into a sweat on fri night. our form players did not perform ie briers, monaghan they are the engine room. bad day at the office these things happen, think some people on here think we are invincible we are gonna have good days and bad days thats part of rl
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| This needs putting behind us.
Credit to salfort for turning up and doing the job they needed to win.
What matters is how it all goes from here .
It is still in our hands and we are still capable of topping the league.
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| Morley was definetily suffering from 5 mins on.
Hodgson, Westwood and Carvell looked like they hadn't even played Friday and were possibly our 3 best players.
Bridge and Myler were ineffective but didnt appear tired.
Friday's game wasnt the reason we lost, not in terms of the players fatigue anyway. A much disrupted week in training, maybe.
I'll just give Salford credit for yesterday because their defence was outstanding. They pinpointed Monaghan and nailed him at marker before he could get a scoot on almost every time.
It's also become very clear over the last couple of seasons now that our side is not good in those conditions. I hope we sort that issue out becuase it's like that often come playoff time.
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| it reeked of training this week being "its ok, its only salford"
not so sure on positions either, bridge on the wing is a weird one, i'd have swapped atkins and had blythe and bridge at centres.
Morley was quiet the other night and yesterday,he didn't come back on in the second half, and the other big one that no one has mentioned yet, briers hurt his arm/wrist in the first half, following up his own kick and put a big shot on the fullback, that was still bothering him in the second half, and looked really bad at one point.
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| Morley for me has been ineffective for a few weeks. He was poor against Crusaders too. I think he would benefit from a rest period but with Woody looking like he's injured I dont think he will get one.
Could do with King, Anderson, Monas J, and Harrison back ASAP.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Well after today's 'showing', I'd rather have Stefan Dennis (Neighbours)'"
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| Quote ="Wirefan"[uHodgson[/u, Westwood and Carvell looked like they hadn't even played Friday and were possibly our 3 best players.'"
Had a shocker for mine in comparison to the rest of the season.
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| Hodgson didn't do much wrong as far as I was concerned, was pretty solid as usual. One of the few better players on show in Sunday's performance.
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