I think he is far to small and weak. He almost has the physique of a 15 year old boy... he certainly will not succeed if he doesn't bulk up... i think his size is one of the reasons he doesn't take on the line.. what's the point in trying to burst through if the first person you come up against is going to smash you into the ground... we have already seen that he hasn't got the elusiveness of a tomkins.. he also doesn't appear to have fantastic ball skills.. he has pace.. so now he needs power and lots of it.

I am expecting him to be bulking up considerably over the next 12 months.... they should make him go the gym with Ryan Atkins and give him some of what he eats.

I heard a story that Myler had a go at Tony Smith publicly after your Challenge Cup semi-final win. He was unhappy about only being brought on when he considered the game to be already won. There was something on the Hull forum recently about Warrington accepting a bid for him but apparently Myler didn't want to move to Hull for travel reason's.

This may be total rubbish but it's what I heard.

The thing with Richie is he's not a creative player, he's more of a Danny McGuire opportunist type player who's quick and backs up any breaks. I wonder if Smith has considered switching him to stand off in a similar role to McGuire at Leeds.

You had the mercurial Ratchford to take over from him as well.

I Disagree.Rob Burrow is 5'5 and 10'6 Stone, regarded as one of the best in the game at scrum half and an international. Lets use him as a comparable.

Richie Myler, Games 20, Carries 230, Tackles 238, Tries 15, assists 12
Rob Burrow, Games 18, Carries 253, Tackles 198, Tries 5, Assists 7.



Everyone will say Rob Burrow takes on the line more, is stronger in defence, can create more tries. Please look at the stats first eh??? Yes Burrows done more carries, but theres not much in it.


I think weve got one of the brightest young players in the game, stats say it all.

Oh and before some smart ar*e comes back with Mylers missed tackles and error ratio, bear in mind his age, its his first year at Wire etc etc.

Burrow hasn't been anywhere near his best this season in all honesty (bad inury i think has effected his game).. But the burrow of last season (and many seasons before) would regularly break through the defensive line... something which myler doesn't do.

You can wave stats around all you want.... here's a stat for you... smith has dropped myler for not being good enough.

And Burrows is playing in a much better team!

Burrow 2009 - 257 Tackles, 250 Carries, 22 appearances.

Smith didnt drop him because hes not good enough, Smith dropped him tactically to accommodate players he thought would have a better approach to the gameplan he implemented, and it worked. Smith played Myler in what at the time was a VERY crucial match against Wigan away, or did you forget that??? He doesnt overnight be a player who can be good enough and then cant be. Coaches use tactics, thats why theyre employed.

If he wasnt good enough, Smith wouldnt have signed him.

No doubt you'll have a different opinion, about Myler not being up to standard,so we will agree to disagree. If you want a cheeky side bet of say a tenner, il happily back myler to play in 90% of next seasons games, injury dependent.

What you reckon?

i reckon that there's no way I am betting on a player playing or not.

for whatever reason smith suddenly decided to drop myler and now appears to have frozen him out.

Yes he scores tries... but as a half-back he doesn't really offer much with the ball in hand... well i dont see it anyway.... I will be honest... if smith decided to ship him out tomorrow i wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

I hope he comes good and turns out to be a fantastic signing.... but for that to happen i think he has to become alot stronger.. he HAS to add more to his game than support play.

Is he a good organiser - I havent seen it yet
Does he have a good kicking game - No... infact its bloody awful
Is he elusive enough to break the line - He doesnt seem to be
Does he have great ball skills - again I havent seen them.
Does he break the line with his strength and speed (like eastmond... and to an extent burrow) - again its a no

add to this the fact that he has been taken out of the team for being a defensive weak link and its obvious he has alot of improving to do.

The physicality is massively underestmated.
Eastmond and Tomkins (to a lesser extent) are athletes, Myler at 19/20, is not.

Again looking at the stats it seems that he does have the above qualities, but would i swap him for the likes of Tomkins, Burrow, Eastmond, then yes i would. I know where your coming from, but just trying to show it isnt as bad as it seems....

what skills do you think he excels at?

Don't you just love this forum, we win the challenge cup, everything is hunky dory and the board is realtively quiet, nothing gets said about anything negative, we get knocked out of the play-offs, and this site is alive with negative activity/posts about Myler not getting on with Briers/having a go at Smith publicly/being sold to Hull FC, its pathetic, its almost as if Warrington fans love to whinge and moan

I think Myler is suffering from low self-confidence since being dropped for Wembley, something he needs to learn from as it happens from time to time

EXCELS at his backup play without doubt. Is good for his age and experience at all other aspects of his game.

Look, lets face it, would TS pick him as an international half back and pay 200k for the guy if he didnt EXCEL over other players in his position?

Simple yes or no will do

He's johnny on the spot if someone makes a break, knack of being in the right place at the right time. He's also very quick over the first 20 metres. I wouldn't compare him with Rob Burrow he's more like a Danny McGuire. There is nothing wrong with having a half back that can't create as long as you have play makers in other positions like scrum half, hooker and loose forward.

How can people compare Myler with Tomkins and Eastmond, how long have both of them been playing in their 1st team? 3 years i think, this is Mylers 1st year in the team and looking at them stats he hasn't done that bad, but yea let's all get on Myler's back, and let him turn out like Penny did, ffs people are still moaning after the season we have had.

It was the catalan game away. Then dropped to the bench for the semi due to catalan targeting him again. Then of course everything was rosey with wins all over the place.

As for Kevin Penny he was never the same after the cup game at saints where he scored a fantastic try and then it all went tits up.

But expect to see him flying down the wing next season at Belle Vue.

Lets not forget with Myler that he can add the more creative and organisational apsects to his game, especially given his age. Saying that I don't think he will ever be a lead halfback in our side, and thats not a bad thing. He will be an excellent fend to a half who organises and bosses a team around the field.

Made his first team debut in Feburary of last year

Yeah, after his abysmal performance in the CC Final (the equal biggest game of his career) it's obvious that he is finished.

Do you 'understand' this from having...spoken...with your mate...Ian Barker....who is officially...the worst journalist....in the UK?

In which case I'll put it in the same category as the Loch Ness Monster and the Theory of Atlantis.

A rough diamond, he needs more time to settle in.

I agree - just a case of first season-itis. Crikey King and Monas had it too and they ARE experienced. Fine and dandy now. I just wish Briers was younger. Myler would be superb supporting a young Lee, with Monas creating options too. I am sure this will still happen next season.

Oh and he excels at whipping the ball out of the opposition's hands

That's a good call... He is good at the one on one ball steal... I forgot about that one.