Our Welsh friends in the West Stand were giving it a go.

To be honest, I felt the atmosphere against Wigan was a bit down on previous years. Now the atmosphere against Quins was top notch, everyone seemed up for it, although it being the first game after a long close season no doubt contributed to that.

The atmosphere yesterday was subdued. A fair few tried to make an effort and I know those will be nursing sore throats this morning, as I am. We were 2 drummers short yesterday and it was left down to the 2 young lads who haven't had a great deal of experience in creating an atmosphere. I know someone took over the job towards half time and it improved quite a bit, he didn't have his regular drum though, so wasn't quite as affective has he could have been.

As Walter Wizard said, people rely on the drummers to start the songs, when in truth, only one song (Carnival De Paris) needs the drummers to start it, the rest can be started by anyone. I like to think of the drummers as keeping people in tune and helping the atmosphere along, rather than being the sole creators.

As we've shown a few times over the years, we don't need to be playing one of the bigger teams to get a good atmosphere. York at home in the cup last year was a good example, when there was a low crowd and a single drum, yet everyone was singing along and enjoying themselves.

I'm not entirely sure writing down the songs would be a bad idea. Maybe someone could create a web page with all the songs on it, just for reference purposes. A link to said web page with a warning of expletive deletives next to it could be placed on here, to cover the mods backs, rather than having to attempt to bypass the swear filter and risk having it removed.

All in all, instead of waiting for a drummer to start up with a song, start one yourself, it'll either fall flat on its face, or it'll contribute. Either way you have nothing to lose

Agree entirely, moving to the West stand is an idea I've always supported. With the stewards forcing any drummers to either side of about the 25m mark in each direction this season (apparently due to radio communication problems), people are even further apart now.

I don't know how it would, maybe a small partition for games against the bigger clubs half way up the South stand would allow us have both sets of fans in the South, with the West being home only. Obviously after 6 years at the stadium, a lot of people are settled in their favourite spot. But who knows eh?

Tune of the John O'Shea song.

Or " The animals march in two by two"

For it's official title, and for non-wendyball fans

Who stole it from United r.e Hargreaves, who stole it from West Ham r.e Christian Dailly.

Or even don't sing the expletives.

I told you about this before.

Sure I heard a new Solomona song yesterday sounded like it was to The White Stripes seven nation army ala Mascherano sounded pretty good

[iSol oh oh oooh mona........ Sol oh oh oooh mona[/i

Not everyone wants to sing at the game, some people just want to go and watch a good game of rugger!

I am a drummer in the south stand and have been doing it since willderspool, this season i have moved down towards the south/west corner. The atmosphere for a long time has been rubbish at the hj, unless its a big game(saints,leeds,wigan). I moved down ther thinking if one drummer stays down the other end of the stand, because of the rubbish layout of the stadium we could try n get the whole of the south stand bouncing, and were i am we can have a bit of banter with the away fans. This has obviously not happened. People need to get behind the wire vocaly at all matches. if i was to just stand there and bang my drum wid 3 people around me singing people would start winging about the drum (if they dont already). Its down 2 the other 4,000 in the stand to start singing. i enjoy away matches so much more because of the atmosphere. I dont no what the soloution is but for f### sake Lets get behind the wire and be that extra man!
Mather

Cause drums are bobbins now mate. Vocal chanting is the way forward, with witty, original chants.

Thanks mate problem sorted

Aren't there only about 3 songs sung at RL grounds that are original? Hardly the sport of songwriters the good old game

There was very little wrong with the atmosthere yesterday. and a crowd of over 11,000 was very impressive, over 3000 up on the same game last year. Just because some of us don't want to sing doesn't mean that we don't make a noise, most of us do.

Without sounding like weve got the league in the bag... maybe most fans didnt feel the need to urge the lads on by singing as thay knew we would win. No escuse i know.. but could be the case.

You only need 4 chants -

1. "Give us a W................................."
2. "Oh, Warry Warry.........................."
3. "Oh Warrington, is wonderful............"
4. "Wire, Wire......"

End of.

Top post, probably summing up my own feelings to the whole atmosphere debate.

Being a traditional Fletcher St type of supporter, I've always been a bit baffled by the drum, and find the idea of songsheets both patronising and a little sad....I don't mean to upset folk with that, its simply my opinion.

Song sheets, who's idea was that?

If the song is good, people will learn it, if it's not they won't.

We have loads more songs than we did a couple of season ago though which is great.

I agree about drums, they can be good at times but just singing creates the best atmosphere. United and Liverpool away fans don't have drums but they are some of the best around.

Don't complain about the amount of songs you have though, you are miles better fans than most for creating an atmosphere and for having a decent variation.

Wigan

To the tune of wild thing... 'matt king'... Der der der der he runs down the wing.... He makes EVERYTHING groooooovy baaaaaabey.

that's as far as I've got....

Cru Cru Crusaders! Thats the best chant of all time.

In the south stand? i was stood a couple of rows behind,at least he was trying to get something going.

The atmosphere at away games is definitely better at away games. The Ritchie myler song at Hudds was a laugh and the one about the empty seats made me laugh. (their here, their there, their every f...ing where -empty seats, empty seats)

love that. amazing song. i like it in sputh stand as more supporters but again people need to start singing. i think in that we ksoon as we knew wire was going to win people didn't bother but it will step up against bradford as the away fans will be louder hopefully