In fairness to the stewards, I presume most of them are doubly employed by the Rugby and Football teams and have to put up with the chavball fans most weeks and, therefore, their handling of situations isn't what Rugby fans are used to.

i was on the tv doing the congo woot woot (the one wit the jesters hat)

lets hope we can do stuff like tht at wembley without getting told to sit down by stewards

I'd ban you for life tbh

you cant say much can you watching it on tv can you

That would be correct. The whole incident was a bit of both. Stewards went in a bit quick but you still can't condone the response of some Wire fans. One big fat bloke in particular who (unless you've another big agressive fat bloke) was at the heart of the trouble last week. I saw him smack a surrending Wigan fan on the jaw at Widnes.

In terms of the Conga I bet some wires fans probably think "arrrghh bloody killjoys it's health & safety gone mad" as well but I think younger supporters should be thankful how safe grounds are these days and why the health and safety aspect is so aggressive which all came about following the tragic hillsborough disaster in 1989 and more in particular the 1985 Valley Parade fire in which 55 fans literally burned to death after a small fire believed to have been caused by a disgarded cigarette engulfed a whole stand within about 2 minutes. I saw footage of that incident and trust me it mentally scarred me for life.

No, of course not. All taking and whatnot aside, alcohol + steep, wet stairs in that North Stand = recipe for disaster. If a Wire fan was to fall and cause serious damage to themselves, no doubt there would have been an uproar that Wigan didn't comply with Health and Safety regulations. Major court cases and possible closure of the Stadium could've followed.

Hillsborough was created by a stadium crush due to a lack of space in an overfilled stadium.
To be fair if you'd gathered everyone from tonight into one stand you still wouldn't have filled it.

Or a novel idea would be to watch the game you have paid to see? I dunno seems sensible to me!


As for the people complaining about not being able to do the Conga 18 months ago I would have agreed with you, that is until I was sent on a H and S/Risk Assessment course and knowing what that stand is like the stewards will have had no choice but to break it up (I am not saying they didn't perhaps handle it badly) due to the potential for it going very wrong and them ending up with numerous casualties - I am sure most people if they stop and think for a second can think why it probably isn't the most sensible/safest thing to be doing. You also have to remember that due to the wonderful claim culture we have now that if something had gone wrong then some idiot would have probably sued the club for allowing them to do it.

Didn't go to the game last night but watched it on tv. Saw wire fans doing a conga causing no trouble at all yes maybe health and safety gone mad and all that they should be told to stop if they were going up and down the steps (but how is that different to everyone going out of the ground at the end of the game?) the stewards were seen rushing up the stairs mob handed when just a quiet word would surely be surfice.

So depending on how the stewards approached the situation would determine the reaction from the wire fans. But no excuse for fighting fire with fire.

are saints going to wembley NO so SHAME YOUR NOT OFF TO WEMBELY EITHER?. and im pretty sure now wire are 9th they wanted to win this im gonna laugh so hard if they lose to hudds and dont make the play offs.

it's a thing called wembley and i couldn't afford to go and watch tonight, which is why i was asking what went on.

Yeah lets get it out the way jesus some people really are too sensitive

Maybe it was a case of them having a problem with a few of the wire fans being happy cos we were losing. How very dare we? We supposed to be stood with arms crossed and bottom lip sticking out down to the third buttonwhole on our shirts and look like we've eaten our own socks. Or better still, do the wigan walk....

And as for a wire fan singing to a big wigan fan about eating pies..........have a look at the locked wigan thread on page 2 and 3 and see if the perfect wiganers didnt just poke a tiny little bit of fun at a big warrington fan that we saw on telly.

on behalf of all big fat blokes i feel a better description is required in future.

i saw lots of skinny folk missbehaving last week, i gave the description to the police they arrested all skinny folk, hence the poor attendance last night

I agree totally with you there. As in society there is an element that you are embarassed to be associated with.I have been to virtually all the matches home and away over the past 19 years and I have to say that some of the fans behaviour is a discrace and living in between both St Helens and Wigan both sides comment on it.
If a steward was pushed that was unacceptable and if the minority of our fans can not behave we will end up being policed.There was a mum in front of me giving one and two finger salutes every other word a swear word - is it really needed.Can people just not attend , have a good time and enjoy the match.
As mentioned previously if some drunken tool had fell and ended up in hospital or died people would have been slagging the stewards off.
I also can empathise with a few stewards going up in to hundreds of wire fans.

There is a way to do it though

What the Conga may have looked like!!

Oh No!!

yes which is to identify the offender and pick him out as he's leaving, the irony is he was not even charged with any thing.
i have done security at a champions league final so have a right to comment. stewards were trying to save face last night because they were unable to "control" some kids who were getting giddy, lets face facts
no one left early because they were scared, wigan fans get over yourself, you do the walk every week, i have photographic proof that you have "early leaver turnstyles"
no one got hurt/ arrested. unlike last week when several pie trouble makers did(arrested that is) so who's the worst fans?
and not one wigan fan would be on here moaning if they had won last week!

end of!

thats made me chuckle.

I think Mother Feka should join MI5 with her eagle eye to see a steward being pushed. I alike her was sat in the Wigan Stand and it sure looked like a case a draconian heavy handed stewarding.

Rushing up stairs and grabbing lads by the collar and dragging? I'd have pushed him back down the stairs when he got up.

Mother Feka and Co have yet again exemplified the sentence - "You only see what you want to see".

I agree that a Conga isn't best placed in a Stadium, but it was causing no harm or offence until heavy handed stewarding tactics turned the mood sour.

I must admit I could have quite cheerfully have given a good kicking to quite a few of our 'supporters' last night. Some of them were so beered up and foul mouthed I am surprised they even bother coming out of the pub to watch the game.

Not as bad as some of the Wigan weenies are making out though, as they are more of an embarrassment than any real 'threat'.

This is by no means a new thing. A Wigan away game a few season ago I had some drunken 14-year-olds behind me who had actually managed to sneak in a bottle of Aftershock and were passing it between them. I don't think any of them were there for the game, just there to shout abuse, mess around and generally cause a disturbance and ruin it for everyone else. We, like every team, have these idiots. Unfortunately it just becomes exacerbated when a team starts to become successful.

You think stopping the Conga was the worst of the stewards, think again.

At Rochdale one year the last game of the season was against Whitehaven who wern't in the play-offs and decided to have a fancy dress theme. The cowboy had his toy guns taken off him and the two 118118 guys were told to sit down when they ran up and down the front of the seats at half time shouting "Got your number."

Little Hitlers, everyone of 'em!

Pugwash.