btw dougie aka lewis charnock is only 14 so could you all just give him a break and let him enjoy playing rugby...if he makes it,he does...if he doesnt make t,so what.let the kid enjoy playing the game!!!!!

And the reason they were not allowed to play at Wilderspool this year?..

Well said. Although if I was 14 and happened upon this thread I'd be made up it had reached 4 pages.

Hopefully these will be the last promising youngsters to leave Wire like this, if we can get our Academy system in the right shape.

just so that you all know dougie charnock has got his own mind and own head as 1 of dougies best m8s and playing for warrington for the last 4 years wiv dougie i think dougie can think for himself. as im sure you all know. i





PERSONALLY think that players shouldnt be allowed to move away from there hometown scholairship untill atleast there 16. but thats the way it is!!!!!

After reading that, the FIRST things the clubs should do is make sure their young players go to school.

Are you employed (or contracted) by the club? I'd be really annoyed if I was the club and you were one of my employees.

The club has an abatoir within it's grounds?

and thats ment to mean ???? some sarcastic comment, i wont belittle myself your standards

I don't think it's sarcasm, more of a comment on your ty english.

Hope that helps.

anyone remember a lad called Graham Howard playing in the youth teams ?

Dougie is making his Super League debut for Saints tomorrow against Salford.

Just thought you would like to know. It'll be interesting to see how he goes.

He was in the Saints u19s team that got beat by Warrington's the other week. He ended up losing his cool and cleaned one of his own players out. Looked a half-decent player at that level but didn't particularly stand-out in the manner Lee Gaskell use to at academy level.

Is Gaskell playing becuase selected Charnock in front of him is basically giving up on Gaskell.

Hang on....how old is this lad? If he is 14 would he not be in Rylands U15s? Rylands don't have a U15s team!

The name certainly does not register with me and I know these age groups well, indeed my lad (who is also 15) is on the U16s scholarship and I coach with the U11s SA.

Lots of mistruths in this thread.

Erm Saints haven't won a button since 2008 how does that make them successful as us not ??

Has Live Wired ever been right about anything?

Whatever happened to manoa thompsons knees?

Have a look at the date of the thread! It was started nearly 4 years ago



He is an ex Rylands player and signed for Saints scholarship a couple of years back. No mistruths as far as I can see.

Good luck to him, a very promising talent.

Oops, he's not in the nineteen, Saddened.

This thread is from July 2009

Oh it is one of those threads. Ancient history. Great.

Well since then the scholarship system has been filled with many local players, indeed six of the U15s are now from Latchford.

And still PLENTY of mistruths about the benefits of the St Helens system against our own. Quite frankly if the honour of playing for our town, our team doesn't outweigh any small differences in training programmes then we are well shot of any such players.

And considering only around 7% of all scholarship/ academy players end up playing SL I don't think it should be seen as a particularly viable career choice and should be taken for what it is. So why not play for the team you want to play for?

Those things are more guidelines than rules. But we will see if he plays.

Well done, Saddened, he's at stand-off. Strange halfback combo though.

Lomax rested as he's a superstar now he's a fullback, Gaskell and Hohaia injured. Charnock did okay tonight, came up with some relieving kicks and scored his first points for the club.

Probably made the right choice then as he is getting a start at one of the smaller clubs.