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| I have always thought players like Paul Wood and Ben Westwood.
Players who aren't big in stature but match opponents who are physically bigger than them.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"To keep it in RL, sometimes you get players like Gary Wheeler, who you see playing as a kid and know instantly they're going to get somewhere in the game. I suppose other examples include players like Lee Briers - very naturally gifted, but lacks the ethos to go above and beyond and do the extra work in training and polish his game off.
On the other hand, you have players like those mentioned, specifically Adrian Morely and Jamie Peacock; neither of whom lit up the junoir ranks (in fact, Jamie Peacock would run the wrong way when he was playing for his amateur club - Stanningley? - his old coach gave an interview saying how he just didn't have a scooby doo), but worked hard at training, were willing to learn and got a bit of a break; eventually, something stuck and they developed through hard work and have both captained their country.
To use the football example, someone like David Beckham is a great shout, as he worked so hard at developing himself, perhaps even past his potential; he's been one of the fittest and most tenacious players of his generation, allied by his pinpoint accuracy with the ball. He worked on his ability and pushed the boundaries of what an outside right with little natural acceleration could do within the game.
Other RL examples I would suggest are perhaps Lee Penny, Shaun Edwards and Danny Lima (I thought his half-season waltz in 2005 deserves mentioning.)'"
They both still played every level of representative rugby at town and service area levels though. I still think this is a very daft thread.
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| Hugh Hefner must be the worlds number 1
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| I'd like to suggest JWP.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I'd like to suggest JWP.'"
Nah, I think you're overhyping me there ace.
I'll only have made it when I launch a ty text flirting scheme in some Leigh dossholes.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I'd like to suggest JWP.'"
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"
Other RL examples I would suggest are perhaps Lee Penny, Shaun Edwards and Danny Lima (I thought his half-season waltz in 2005 deserves mentioning.)'"
Shaun Edwards???? WTF?
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| Micky Higham.
How on earth someone who cant even pass a rugby ball gets a gig at a mid table SL team is beyond me
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| Eddie Hemmings.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"Shaun Edwards???? WTF?
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He could only accurately pass the ball one way, didn't have a great kicking game, his defensive frailties were a liability at time; his technique was bad and would often be around the head.
To counter this, he would rush out of the defensive line to put pressure on possible passes by either a) being in line for an interception or b) in position for a tackle. He'd also direct the team to the left hand side of the field so that he could pass from left to right if they were to put a backline spread on.
Edwards' main attribute was his rugby brain, hence his knack of 'being in the right place at the right time' and his fantastic support play, not to mention his great coaching career. Using his brain, he made the most of his limited physical talents.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"Shaun Edwards???? WTF?
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Compare his skill set to Andy Gregory's, than reconsider your query.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Compare his skill set to Andy Gregory's, than reconsider your query.'"
What's Andy Gregory got to do with it? If Shaun Edwards is deemed to have been a "limited talent", then I just give up.
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| This is unlivable........Shaun Edwards had limited talent not only that he's being mentioned in the same sentence as Lee Penny and Danny Lima
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| Quote ="worthing wire"What's Andy Gregory got to do with it? If Shaun Edwards is deemed to have been a "limited talent", then I just give up.'"
Andy Gregory = naturally talented player. Shaun Edwards = hard worker who had to work had at supporting the ball carrier as he didn't have the natural abilty to create the space himself.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Shaun Edwards = hard worker who had to work had at supporting the ball carrier as he didn't have the natural abilty to create the space himself.'"
i agree he's no Lee Briers
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"V Anderson'"
Poor call. One of the most naturally talented second rowers I have seen.
Just a lazy git.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"This is unlivable........Shaun Edwards had limited talent
not only that he's being mentioned in the same sentence as Lee Penny and Danny Lima
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I'm with you Latchy. Some wierd stuff going on today. We elevate Vinnie Anderson and criticise Shaun Edwards' ability. The world has gone mad. If he had played in PnB he would be rightly called a legend.
For those who don't recall him properly.
- Signed at 17 for Wigan - the largest signing on fee ever for his age - still.
- Holds the Wigan record for 10 tries in a game.
- Scoring over 1100 points, in 452 appearances for Wigan during a career of 14 years.
- In 1992 season was leading try scorer with 40 tries.
- 36 caps for GB.
- 8 CC wins, god knows in the league and cups, and MOM in the WCC against Brisbane.
- Played successfully in the NRL.
I can think of better candidates for this thread.
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| When did Edwards play in Australia?
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| does seem to support monkeys POV as a support player(and i say this well aware of the bar room argument this conversation invokes)
Anyone care to venture on to the wigan board with this and duck for cover?
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Was that the same year as Hanley?
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Was that the same year as Hanley?
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