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| Quote ="bombheadwire"no not atall season ticket holder for years.
for some reason i think you was though m8'"
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| Quote ="howley-wire"im there ill cheer my head off , and i agree tony smith will get it right and heneeds time but what gets me annoyed is the players dont care if they win lose draw , there just here for the money , i will be there this friday and i will be cheering , just hope other people do'"
Don't you understand that the players are playing to a plan?
Playing to the plan might be bobbins today but some day in the not too distant future it will come off, big style.
Keep the faith and cut the criticism. We are all in it together.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I've done it at a Pantomime but I think they sort of wanted us to.
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| Oh no it isnt
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| Quote ="Milly"Nope, can't say I'm particularly happy. Why would I be happy that the club I support is struggling?
However I can see that changes are being made. I know what to expect when I go to watch, so when we do turn the corner I'll be thrilled. I've spent the last 20+ years waiting for our turn and have seen us play better and have seen us play worse. I accept that TS is ringing the changes, that some players will leave and others will thrive and improve. I also accept that 20 years of mediocrity ain't gonna be fixed over night. I'm not a booer - don't see the point, but I don't clap and cheer fresh air either.
How do you know that the players don't want to play? There are loads of reasons why a player will under perform. It's not like walking into an office and sitting behind a desk. They turn up, get battered, bruised, abused and booed every week - I wouldn't want to play either!
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iv spent 20 years waiting too so you must know the frustration of hearing the same hype preseason every year and nothing deliverd. yeah maybe ts will turn us around but when were in a mess like we are your gonna get boos. at the start of the season thay wasnt getting booed so you cant blame it on that thay got cheerd so. well to me the players dont seem like thay want to play and i guess your right in that there could be other reasons behind that.
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| Quote ="robbierotten"look at it this way
your in work u make a mistake your boss boos you
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you make another mistake your boss and work mate boo you
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you make another mistake your boss and work mates boo you
you feel abit more silly and less confidence after a while you feel nervous about doing your job far the fear of been ridiculed
soon your confidence has total been shot you cant perfrom to level you can'"
Yabadadoooo!
You are far from 'Rotten', you are fab.
I completely agree.
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| Quote ="WireDOA'88"Just because you go to matches doesn't mean you are a real fan.
The word "fan" has a broad meaning.'"
But I started the thread talking of supporters, not fans.
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| Quote ="Milly"Nope, can't say I'm particularly happy. Why would I be happy that the club I support is struggling?
However I can see that changes are being made. I know what to expect when I go to watch, so when we do turn the corner I'll be thrilled. I've spent the last 20+ years waiting for our turn and have seen us play better and have seen us play worse. I accept that TS is ringing the changes, that some players will leave and others will thrive and improve. I also accept that 20 years of mediocrity ain't gonna be fixed over night. I'm not a booer - don't see the point, but I don't clap and cheer fresh air either.
How do you know that the players don't want to play? There are loads of reasons why a player will under perform. It's not like walking into an office and sitting behind a desk. They turn up, get battered, bruised, abused and booed every week - I wouldn't want to play either!
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Quality post
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"becouse i love the wire and get so frustrated with it. come on so your telling me your happy giveing out your cash to watch this shower?
theres getting beat by a good team and takeing it on the chin but when your teams full of players that dont want to play and your getting beat by last seasons bottom teams what you gonna do cheer?'"
I feel so strongly about this that I'll invite you out for a coffee and we can arm wrestle this one
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| Quote ="Milly"Nope, can't say I'm particularly happy. Why would I be happy that the club I support is struggling?
However I can see that changes are being made. I know what to expect when I go to watch, so when we do turn the corner I'll be thrilled. I've spent the last 20+ years waiting for our turn and have seen us play better and have seen us play worse. I accept that TS is ringing the changes, that some players will leave and others will thrive and improve. I also accept that 20 years of mediocrity ain't gonna be fixed over night. I'm not a booer - don't see the point, but I don't clap and cheer fresh air either.
How do you know that the players don't want to play? There are loads of reasons why a player will under perform. It's not like walking into an office and sitting behind a desk. They turn up, get battered, bruised, abused and booed every week - I wouldn't want to play either!
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Agree totally Milly, excellent post.
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| Quote ="Handy Andy"I feel so strongly about this that I'll invite you out for a coffee and we can arm wrestle this one
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| Just shows how well you played on Friday to come within two points of us.
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| Quote ="Milly"Nope, can't say I'm particularly happy. Why would I be happy that the club I support is struggling?
However I can see that changes are being made. I know what to expect when I go to watch, so when we do turn the corner I'll be thrilled. I've spent the last 20+ years waiting for our turn and have seen us play better and have seen us play worse. I accept that TS is ringing the changes, that some players will leave and others will thrive and improve. I also accept that 20 years of mediocrity ain't gonna be fixed over night. I'm not a booer - don't see the point, but I don't clap and cheer fresh air either.
How do you know that the players don't want to play? There are loads of reasons why a player will under perform. It's not like walking into an office and sitting behind a desk. They turn up, get battered, bruised, abused and booed every week - I wouldn't want to play either!
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"erm ok
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| Quote ="Handy Andy"I'm very real and I completely understand that to put someone down will put a weight on their shoulders.
Why not trying being encouraging, until the end of the season if need be. Then makeryour decision.
If you are negative then, I'll step back and leave you to it.'"
i am very encouraging as you put it but when watching tripe like that today i and many others will not applaud cheer or encourage...as for end of season they may prove me wrong but i very much doubt it
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| Quote ="Milly"Nope, can't say I'm particularly happy. Why would I be happy that the club I support is struggling?
However I can see that changes are being made. I know what to expect when I go to watch, so when we do turn the corner I'll be thrilled. I've spent the last 20+ years waiting for our turn and have seen us play better and have seen us play worse. I accept that TS is ringing the changes, that some players will leave and others will thrive and improve. I also accept that 20 years of mediocrity ain't gonna be fixed over night. I'm not a booer - don't see the point, but I don't clap and cheer fresh air either.
How do you know that the players don't want to play? There are loads of reasons why a player will under perform. It's not like walking into an office and sitting behind a desk. They turn up, get battered, bruised, abused and booed every week - I wouldn't want to play either!
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Fantastic post. I just wish others read this and accept it.
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| Quote ="robbierotten"look at it this way
your in work u make a mistake your boss boos you
you feel abit silly
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you make another mistake your boss and work mates boo you
you feel abit more silly and less confidence after a while you feel nervous about doing your job far the fear of been ridiculed
soon your confidence has total been shot you cant perfrom to level you can'"
keep making mistakes at work your boss kicks you out...should happen at the h&j...but no we turn up again just hoping it gets better...
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"Half the people on here who complain about the booing cant be d to go the matches
We have the right to boo we pay the money, nothing has changed from week 1 of the season (maybe we have got worse) absolute awful changes needed!'"
I do go to the matches and I agree that you have the right to boo. What I was saying is that by booing you are probably hindering our progression.
None of the players go on the pitch to lose and hearing the booing as they came onto the pitch sets down a marker for what is to come from the fans.
We need to give Tony Smith a break. He's a coach, not a magician.
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"i am very encouraging as you put it but when watching tripe like that today i and many others will not applaud cheer or encourage...as for end of season they may prove me wrong but i very much doubt it'"
I'm so pleased that you are encouraging, that's all we need
No need to applaud or cheer on a bad day, just don't boo
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| Booing is just pointless, where does it get you? If your annoyed then don't boo and don't clap. It amazes me that some people will pay £17 to just slag the team off even before the match has kicked off. Stay at home.
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"oh ok thx for that usefull info
most of the fans that go these days didnt bother supporting us at wilderspool so dont give me that core true fans rubbish.
there was alot more booing going on in them days.'"
no there wasn't!
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| Quote ="slimwire66"no there wasn't!'"
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"what! yes there was and sit ins and going to the back of the bevan stand demanding answers.'"
One sit-in and booing after the Huddersfield capitulation. One incident of titheads having a dig after the London game.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"One sit-in and booing after the Huddersfield capitulation. One incident of titheads having a dig after the London game.'"
Cas at home last year too.
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| Quote ="WireDOA'88"Cas at home last year too.'"
Was that a Reserve/Academy game?
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